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Re: Common Anti-Tix Arguments Disproven

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VocSG is not online. VocSG
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23 Oct 2016 03:46 PM
"ROBLOX isn't a fashion game."
No, it's not. But it's an MMO, and players need a chance for individuality. If it truly isn't a fashion game, then delete all your clothing and hats if they really don't matter.

"Just develop a good game."
No, you need to pay for ads to get your game out there in the first place, let alone take the time to learn. No ads means you can't get your game out there and profit.

"Just set up a business."
Again, you need time to learn and pay for ads to get it out there.

"Botting was going on."
Add a claim button along with a captcha that lets you claim your tix. Botting solved.

"ROBLOX needs to support its servers."
ROBLOX earns more than enough to support its servers per year. In fact, they stated themselves that they are profitable and have hired 40 new employees.

"ROBLOX is a business and they can do whatever they want."
True, but being a business is not an excuse to do whatever you want with it. Even when you have a business, there are limits on what is acceptable and what is not. There is also a thing called caring for the customers that earn you money.

"It's only five dollars. If you can afford a PC, you can afford BC."
There are countless players who choose not to spend money for virtual games (see buyer's remorse), and with good reason. Plus some of their parents may not approve of it either.


By the way, tix removal hurt devs and clothing makers. Clothing makers lost a majority of their own customers. Devs are forced to go P2W in order to make a steady amount of money, making the game tedious for non-paying players. It has also encouraged scamming and clickbait out of desperation. Check the comments sections of front page games to see what I mean - which are mostly all removed due to botting, but you can check those who still have their comments open.


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23 Oct 2016 03:54 PM
Mine is uncommon!

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23 Oct 2016 04:00 PM
Maybe we should just stop dwelling on the past and look to the future.




























































































Man, i'm too inspirational sometimes..



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VocSG is not online. VocSG
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23 Oct 2016 04:01 PM
@monkey
I'm not dwelling on a past. The future for ROBLOX is bleak unless we look to the past.


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23 Oct 2016 05:26 PM
Support!
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23 Oct 2016 05:30 PM
GET OUT.


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NubSkillz is not online. NubSkillz
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23 Oct 2016 05:31 PM
Well, did you purposely not put the argument about 𝖻𝗈𝗍𝗍𝗂𝗇𝗀? Because that is a valid argument.


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NubSkillz is not online. NubSkillz
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23 Oct 2016 05:32 PM
Please just disregard the post i just made lmao


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23 Oct 2016 05:32 PM
Well, did you purposely not put the argument about 𝖻𝗈𝗍𝗍𝗂𝗇𝗀? Because that is a valid argument. [2]


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jjblox26 is online. jjblox26
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23 Oct 2016 05:39 PM
>Add a claim button along with a captcha that lets you claim your tix. Botting solved."


if bots are smart enough to hit the "post comment' button, then they are smart enough to do the same thing with the "Claim tix button"
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VocSG is not online. VocSG
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23 Oct 2016 05:45 PM
@jj
Did you read the "captcha" part?


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VocSG is not online. VocSG
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23 Oct 2016 05:47 PM
And I didn't purposely remove the botting argument.
It's in the post, actually read the whole thing.


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jjblox26 is online. jjblox26
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23 Oct 2016 05:50 PM

>There are countless players who choose not to spend money for virtual games (see buyer's remorse), and with good reason.

>oh no, not one of the, "I RATHER SPEND MONEY ON FOOD!" people

look roblox needs their food to




Plus some of their parents may not approve of it either.

if their parents don't approve of them buying bc, then why should we care, they cant contribute anything to this site now,
not hating on them, but



>Clothing makers lost a majority of their own customers.

witch 70% of them are copying the templates of others, and 10% more cutting clothes out of fashion sites




>Devs are forced to go P2W in order to make a steady amount of money, making the game tedious for non-paying players.

bull, i seen many games i myself, a NBCER enjoy


>apocalypse rising
the only thing apocalypse rising forced you to spend money on was wepon skins,check gusm######################################s Reddit page saying he was going to make CLOTHING FIND ABLE!



>the plaza

you dont need to spend robux on the games currency

he even still has a option to WIN IN-GAME CURRENCY for playing a minigame






>It has also encouraged scamming and clickbait out of desperation. Check the comments sections of front page games to see what I mean - which are mostly all removed due to botting, but you can check those who still have their comments open.

AGAIN THATS BULL! SCAMMERS HAVE BEEN SCAMMING BEFORE TIX WAS EVEN REMOVED




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fire754779 is online. fire754779
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23 Oct 2016 05:51 PM
sure, roblox is an MMO, but its point is to build or play other's games.


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Zyphyris is online. Zyphyris
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23 Oct 2016 05:51 PM
""ROBLOX needs to support its servers."
ROBLOX earns more than enough to support its servers per year. In fact, they stated themselves that they are profitable and have hired 40 new employees."

Meanwhile they're giving away free money to devs (Some making unoriginal games) through DevEx.


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VocSG is not online. VocSG
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23 Oct 2016 05:59 PM
@jj
People find it pointless to spend money on a game they see no worth in. They need a chance to make money too.
And if their parents don't approve of it, it'd only be fair.
And yes, they are contributing to the site. They're viewing the ads that BC users don't have to view, which help pay for the site. A lot try to develop good games that NEVER get out there because they don't want to pay for ads.


That's not a valid point. Clothing stealing has always been going on, it doesn't disprove that they lost their customers.




I didn't say all devs. But if you actually looked at the front page games, a bunch are extremely limited for free players. Just look at UD, look at all the gamepasses and their purpose. It puts pressure on devs to be unfair to non-paying players so the devs can earn money by themselves. Paying players wouldn't be under pressure to pay for gamepasses and earn ROBLOX more money if the games weren't P2W.






Everyone knows that. Scammers have only gotten worse. Can you actually check the comments?


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VocSG is not online. VocSG
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23 Oct 2016 06:01 PM
Oh yeah, sucking up to ROBLOX won't reward you with anything.


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Anthonychi is online. Anthonychi
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23 Oct 2016 06:42 PM
Finally.

Someone who is intelligent other than me.

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xdude52 is not online. xdude52
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23 Oct 2016 07:26 PM
I have a feeling this is a desperate attempt made by OP in order to get tix back

Tix is dead and removed and roblox will never add it back

End of story


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VocSG is not online. VocSG
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23 Oct 2016 07:28 PM
@xdude
Did I ever say "bring tix back"?
No. This is to disprove those who are for the tix removal update. Plain and simple.
I stated that ROBLOX doesn't care for its customers, why would I expect them to bring back tix?


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chatowillwin is online. chatowillwin
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23 Oct 2016 07:46 PM
First 3 reasons, I understand you.

Here are my complains on others:

""Botting was going on."
Add a claim button along with a captcha that lets you claim your tix. Botting solved."

By botting, they meant people making other accounts and logging into them every day. Not actual bots.

""ROBLOX needs to support its servers."
ROBLOX earns more than enough to support its servers per year. In fact, they stated themselves that they are profitable and have hired 40 new employees."

People who say that are idiots because they don't realize this update hat NOTHING to do with money.

""ROBLOX is a business and they can do whatever they want."
True, but being a business is not an excuse to do whatever you want with it. Even when you have a business, there are limits on what is acceptable and what is not. There is also a thing called caring for the customers that earn you money."

Actually, that is unfortunately how it works.

""It's only five dollars. If you can afford a PC, you can afford BC."
There are countless players who choose not to spend money for virtual games (see buyer's remorse), and with good reason. Plus some of their parents may not approve of it either."

There are countless kids who want a recess peanut butter bar. But guess what? Just because their parents won't let them get it doesn't mean it's free, or compensated in any way.






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chatowillwin is online. chatowillwin
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23 Oct 2016 07:50 PM
"By the way, tix removal hurt devs and clothing makers. Clothing makers lost a majority of their own customers. Devs are forced to go P2W in order to make a steady amount of money, making the game tedious for non-paying players. It has also encouraged scamming and clickbait out of desperation. Check the comments sections of front page games to see what I mean - which are mostly all removed due to botting, but you can check those who still have their comments open."

NO IT DID NOT.

I literally am a clothing creator and developer. ( See my group ) this update did not affect currency Wanna know why? 1) Earning 70 tix off a shirt is NOTHING. it gives us 3 robux. 3! And guess what happened when tix were around? People who had ROBUX, decided to buy things with tix instead. So instead of Buying the shirt for 10 ROBUX and I earn #### #n##eturn, They buy it for 100 tix were I get 3 robux in return.

Also, free users are not even CLOSE the the majority of people buying clothing. Not even CLOSE. It took ten who days just for them to be able to get a shirt. users with ROBUX don't have to wait at all. Please get common knowledge before you say stuff.

"It has also encouraged scamming and clickbait out of desperation. Check the comments sections of front page games to see what I mean - which are mostly all removed due to botting, but you can check those who still have their comments open."

LMFAO are you stupid or something? I GUARANTEE YOU that people are not going around scamming now, because they don't get 1 robuck every 2 days like they did before. 100% GUARANTEE YOU.




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axhacker2501 is not online. axhacker2501
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23 Oct 2016 07:51 PM
"If it truly isn't a fashion game, then delete all your clothing and hats"
That's like throwing away a hamburger I paid for. The clothing and fashion is OPTIONAL. That's why ROBLOX isn't about fashion.

"No, you need to pay for ads to get your game out there in the first place"
Ever heard the saying "It takes money to make money?"

"Add a claim button along with a CAPTCHA"
CAPTCHA doesn't stop manually made alts. Plus, tix was inflating our economy anyway, and even with a CAPTCHA, the economy would lose value anyway, but in a slower process.

"ROBLOX earns more than enough to support its servers per year"
And...they have to pay for those servers even from abandoned accounts. That isn't fair to them, and they have to pay for it anyway. So...they removed tix. If it clearly stated in the tix removal blog that it wasn't for a financial reason, then it was for some other reason.

"There is also a thing called caring for the customers"
ROBLOX can basically do anything without your agreement to this game. They didn't ask people if they wanted tix gone, they removed it anyway. If you don't like that, maybe you should never have played ROBLOX.

"There are countless players who choose not to spend money for virtual games"
Spend nothing, get nothing. Do you expect 5-star luxury with everything handed to you even though you didn't spend a single penny?

Just be grateful you get to develop games, play games, and get customer service (info@roblox.com) for FREE.

Plus, it's been six months! They wouldn't add it back!
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chatowillwin is online. chatowillwin
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23 Oct 2016 07:54 PM
^^^ Well said.


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VocSG is not online. VocSG
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23 Oct 2016 07:56 PM
@chat
Thanks for making a civilised argument, I'll respond with this:

1. They did mean actual bots. However, genuine people could be stopped with a system that prevents you from making transactions between a player of the same IP, and preventing transactions if it detects a VPN. Although the button and captcha alone are discouraging.

2. I think it's a stupid argument too. But, people still make it and I had to say something about it.

3. Unfortunately, yes, I agree. But their actions now will be their downfall if they don't get their stuff together.

4. Perhaps, but I don't see that as an analogy to ROBLOX. I don't see the compensation to be fair. No, it shouldn't be equal to the opportunity of paying players, but it should be on a minimal standard for fairness. Besides, those gifts that ROBLOX promised were supposed to be that fair compensation, but they never added them.



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