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Re: The Problem (Primarily with the Star Wars Community)

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bndan is not online. bndan
Joined: 10 Feb 2012
Total Posts: 32
21 Oct 2016 05:34 PM
Hello, some of you may know me, some of you may not. My username is bndan, as you can obviously tell. I’ve built for several successful groups throughout ROBLOX. Many of them are well known groups, such as The Vaktovian Empire, The Galactic Empire, Grand Army of the Republic, and more. I enjoy building for these groups and others like them. I like to see them get used by those intended. But developing things can also be hard. It’s extremely time consuming, and can pose quite a challenge in some situations. Developing a single thing can take hours, days, weeks, even months. Now what if I told you that all that hard and tiring work will one day be for nothing. What if I told you that one day, somebody would go and steal it and give it out to those who it was not intended for. What then? Would you just shrug it off like nothing happened? All those hours, days, weeks and months working on this one thing just get stolen in the blink of an eye. You’d be frustrated, wouldn’t you? Trust me, I’ve felt that frustration more times than I can count.
My work has been stolen numerous times. Every time I build something and put it in a place or I give it to somebody and they put it in a place, it gets stolen. Over the course of this year, I’ve had over 200 helmets stolen and leaked. Overall, that’s about 2 years’ worth of my work. Of course, the leaker feels no guilt. They laugh and shrug it off as if nothing happened. They usually just sell it to the highest bidder or use it for their own purpose. It’s not theirs to sell or use, I didn’t make it for them.
I have numerous friends who have had their own work leaked. I’ve helped them vent out their frustration many times. It’s painful for me. I cannot stand to watch others get their hard work stolen and leaked.
Usually the response one would have to their work being stolen is to go have vengeance on the person who did it by stealing their work. This doesn’t solve anything; it just makes matters worse. A leak war more or less begins and before you know it everybody has all your work and everybody has all their work. What then? More of your work has been leaked that wasn’t leaked before, how does that make you feel?
What we need to do as a community is to stop this altogether. We don’t need to steal to get things. There are plenty of developers out there who would be willing to help you out, or better yet, you could learn to build yourself. That’s how I started out, and look where I am now. I’m a successful developer who can supply myself with whatever they need on ROBLOX. Well, almost anything. I can’t script even if my life depended on it. I understand, somebody pissed you off. I know the feeling. That doesn’t mean you need to go out and leak their stuff. You can resolve the conflict in a civil manner rather than let the whole thing drag on for weeks or even months. Leaking or stealing something out of anger is childish and won’t solve anything. You’re making yourself look bad and in the end, nobody will like or trust you. If you all could actually use your minds and act a bit more grown up, that’d be nice. We all know ROBLOX isn’t going to solve the exploiting problems anytime soon, and reporting somebody will do absolutely nothing since they can just hop on an alternate account and continue doing what they do. So we need to come together as a healthy community and stop this. I know there are going to be people that will laugh at this or ignore it entirely, but hey, at least I tried to be the voice of reason. Thank you for your time.
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VityaBC is not online. VityaBC
Joined: 14 May 2016
Total Posts: 73515
21 Oct 2016 05:45 PM
TL;DR Version: People should stop stealing other people's creations.

Make a ROBLOX copyright thing!


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Gaomon_94 is not online. Gaomon_94
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21 Oct 2016 05:49 PM
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cooltot is not online. cooltot
Joined: 15 Sep 2010
Total Posts: 877
21 Oct 2016 05:57 PM
"Sucessful groups." They have like 38 and 300 members. That isnt very successful.
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K0VACK is not online. K0VACK
Joined: 15 Aug 2016
Total Posts: 73
21 Oct 2016 05:57 PM
I support.
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bndan is not online. bndan
Joined: 10 Feb 2012
Total Posts: 32
21 Oct 2016 05:58 PM
Wrong, one was up in the 5k range, another in the 20k.
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K0VACK is not online. K0VACK
Joined: 15 Aug 2016
Total Posts: 73
21 Oct 2016 06:02 PM
Cool, he builds for groups much bigger than that. Even though he isn't legitimately in some of the groups on this account, doesn't mean he doesn't help them grow by building them tech.
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Revented is not online. Revented
Joined: 15 Dec 2014
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21 Oct 2016 06:03 PM
This is just really what the community needs to learn, and to survive.
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K0VACK is not online. K0VACK
Joined: 15 Aug 2016
Total Posts: 73
21 Oct 2016 06:05 PM
The sheer number of group members does not define its success. For instance, VAK has 158 members or so, but it is one of the most successful and well known military-genre groups on Roblox.
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craftsmashbuild is not online. craftsmashbuild
Joined: 18 Aug 2014
Total Posts: 104
21 Oct 2016 06:34 PM
Yup. I 100% agree,
But I will say, one way to prevent people from stealing is to not let certain people have access to a team create, and just add their stuff in yourself. Also use FE. Anyway, yeah this sucks, things need to change
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epikdud1 is not online. epikdud1
Joined: 18 Apr 2011
Total Posts: 127
21 Oct 2016 06:35 PM
I support your choice to do what you will with your life.

You were a great inspiration and great friend in a whole, your tech is quite amazing but like you mentioned this community is bound to get it leaked at times.

I as well know the struggle of making things, heck back in the day i would come up with nothing through days of trying to make something that looked decent.

Out of everyone on roblox, bndan i will always remember you i assume.
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epikdud1 is not online. epikdud1
Joined: 18 Apr 2011
Total Posts: 127
21 Oct 2016 06:38 PM
By that last part, i meant your tech*

wonky face
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DragoonTrooper is online. DragoonTrooper
Joined: 23 Dec 2013
Total Posts: 7416
21 Oct 2016 06:38 PM
kthx
have fun goose goose


"You are correct. We can fight for as long as we have strength, and almost certainly lose."
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WoolHat is not online. WoolHat
Joined: 19 May 2013
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21 Oct 2016 06:39 PM
In a situation like this, unfortunately, your target audience will always fail to see your side of things, and will disregard this post and continue to do what they want. The most we can do is hope that karma is still # ######
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Syntaxical_Returns is online. Syntaxical_Returns
Joined: 08 Feb 2015
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21 Oct 2016 06:40 PM
star wars
im on the good side
dark side kiddos fite me
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epikdud1 is not online. epikdud1
Joined: 18 Apr 2011
Total Posts: 127
21 Oct 2016 06:43 PM
All the tech leak is also another reason why i try to slowly move away from the star wars genre. and slowly transition to my own lore and what not.
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TwoGuyz is not online. TwoGuyz
Joined: 26 Apr 2016
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21 Oct 2016 06:43 PM
TL;DR
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CleanClarance is not online. CleanClarance
Joined: 15 Feb 2013
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21 Oct 2016 07:02 PM
new copypasta unlocked


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EmilySlipknotGirl is not online. EmilySlipknotGirl
Joined: 04 Jun 2016
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21 Oct 2016 07:05 PM
tl;dr


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ArwidKuks is not online. ArwidKuks
Joined: 26 Jul 2011
Total Posts: 29
21 Oct 2016 07:07 PM
I support you, though I'm not a big fan of war groups.
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XxBombasticxBloxedxX is not online. XxBombasticxBloxedxX
Joined: 29 Nov 2015
Total Posts: 10
21 Oct 2016 07:22 PM
Only if those who leader work could understand the stress of making models. If they ever learn, I guarantee that they will begin to doubt their morals.
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ATGUY is not online. ATGUY
Joined: 10 Aug 2012
Total Posts: 31
21 Oct 2016 08:05 PM
I support you on every bit said in this giant paragraph, I agree with everything, it seems you have been through some ruff times, but again, I agree, you can just shrug off someone stealing your work, it is very frustrating to work hours on end, just to get your work demolished, or published bye that group. Look at Heaven Login, he is getting all this hate, all because he made one mistake, copying someones build. That's something that ####### and Heaven have to deal with in a Civil Manner, it is nobody else's business. But, You'd feel the same way as ######## if you got your work stolen. Sad, angry at the fact that you worked all those hours for nothing, just to get your work stolen, I understand the pain, I have had a couple of my things stolen in the past, but that does not stop me from being me, or being a developer, sure it made me mad, but I put it all behind once the future came, and I was better at building, so yes, I agree with you one hundred percent.
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Vallorum is not online. Vallorum
Joined: 08 Sep 2012
Total Posts: 140
21 Oct 2016 08:59 PM
agreed. you should release the names of the people who stole it so they get roasted and hated to set an example so people quit it.
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deaththerapy is not online. deaththerapy
Joined: 13 Apr 2008
Total Posts: 497
22 Oct 2016 10:55 AM
Agreed, it makes me so mad to my own scripts and models in other games or groups that I had never intended on sharing my work with. To add insult in injury, half of them will then insult my work despite using it for themselves.

It has to stop. I get that Roblox is a learning environment, and it's hard to enforce some things perfectly when providing an open system, but nothing warrants theft of what amounts to long hours of a person's work.
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stinkeybird05 is not online. stinkeybird05
Joined: 03 Nov 2013
Total Posts: 3925
22 Oct 2016 11:03 AM
Now I understand why Successful game developers has their models not for sale..


Pls no
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