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Re: man it really does suck now that to make a successful group

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kingkendrick141 is not online. kingkendrick141
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15 Oct 2016 10:52 PM
the biggest determining factor is how rich you are


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Azurecanist is not online. Azurecanist
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15 Oct 2016 10:53 PM
not really true lol unless u want good uniforms

i have a scripter doing stuff for me for free or with pay sometimes


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TimeBurnz is online. TimeBurnz
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15 Oct 2016 10:54 PM
u either have to have some great connections.
or lots of moolah.
lol.
along with that, ur clans activity is heavily determined by how active u and ur hicom r


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TENSHl is not online. TENSHl
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15 Oct 2016 10:54 PM
not really how good of a leader you are matters more
example CSP


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Azurecanist is not online. Azurecanist
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15 Oct 2016 10:55 PM
^ explains why your clan is inactive


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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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15 Oct 2016 10:57 PM
this is not true
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CorrosiveCelvestian is not online. CorrosiveCelvestian
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15 Oct 2016 10:58 PM
Anyone know a good gfx maker? And discord to uniform makers?


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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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15 Oct 2016 10:58 PM
csp and all other small groups are friend circles, there's not much of a leadership factor to that
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TimeBurnz is online. TimeBurnz
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15 Oct 2016 10:58 PM
@cor
I design thumbnails,ads,icons,youtube banners, and if i rlly like u ill do a logo.


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Apexian is not online. Apexian
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15 Oct 2016 10:59 PM
unless you can somehow do most if not all things by yourself

money and/or connections


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INVASlON is not online. INVASlON
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15 Oct 2016 10:59 PM
My primary is easily top 10 and I spent no money
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CorrosiveCelvestian is not online. CorrosiveCelvestian
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15 Oct 2016 11:01 PM
Ok thanks time, i'm looking for a logo maker and a builder, i found the discord for the uniform makers, my builder is currently busy but it would be nice if you could help!


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The_Conductor is not online. The_Conductor
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15 Oct 2016 11:05 PM
"My primary is easily top 10"

SKRRRRRRRRRT
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kingkendrick141 is not online. kingkendrick141
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15 Oct 2016 11:07 PM
I disagree
There have been some fantastic leaders who haven't been able to lead successful groups.

This is staunchly different from say, 2011, when just about anyone could start a group and the biggest determinant was leading ability.
But imo there are 2 big differences.

The first is the expectations as far as development goes. A startup group is typically expected to have a professional fort, unique and exceptional technology, and professional GFX assets(logos, uniforms, etc.) The unfortunate part of this is that many people are incapable of the level of work that is expected, in at least 2 of these 3 fields. So the solution is to have a developer do it. But developers almost always are extremely expensive and/or hard to get a hold of. Some people do develop for free, but they are few and far between and may require a pre-existing personal relationship. Friends help friends.

The second is the hype. People are much harder to recruit nowadays, largely because of the aforementioned development expectations, but also because people want to be in a group that does well in general. People tend to give groups with less reputation a lesser chance now than they did before, whether or not that reputation is good or bad, deserved or undeserved.


And there are a few exceptions to this trend but the end result is that 99% of the time, if you don't have the money, you probably won't get far.


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Father_Satan is not online. Father_Satan
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15 Oct 2016 11:09 PM
it is ALL about the money


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l3oss is not online. l3oss
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15 Oct 2016 11:10 PM
Naa
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CorrosiveCelvestian is not online. CorrosiveCelvestian
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15 Oct 2016 11:10 PM
Anyone know a good builder?


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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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15 Oct 2016 11:11 PM
Azure is pretty rich and his clan sucks


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INVASlON is not online. INVASlON
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15 Oct 2016 11:11 PM
'"My primary is easily top 10"

SKRRRRRRRRRT'

Like the opinion of a failed leader matters ahahahah!!!! rip tcc

SIKE that ho HAS BEEN TRASH
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The_Conductor is not online. The_Conductor
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15 Oct 2016 11:15 PM
rather lead a good group for 3 years than make a small one with hype for 2 months xD


and idk why you're mad just saying you're not top 10
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ZekeZeth is not online. ZekeZeth
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15 Oct 2016 11:16 PM
Shallow people have shallow standards.


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kingkendrick141 is not online. kingkendrick141
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15 Oct 2016 11:16 PM
@Sev

That's a fair point

Money doesn't make the clan, leadership does
But money does enable the clan. No money, no good clan regardless of leadership(limited exceptions)


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Corim is not online. Corim
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15 Oct 2016 11:18 PM
ching ching, bling bling, cut the chatter
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Seviro is not online. Seviro
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15 Oct 2016 11:19 PM
A lot of leaders of good clans have no money or don't use it for their clan.

TAC, TRA
Jamber, SC
Me, A-SOV
Mohxy, CSP
Shiny/Gulian, AC
Money isn't put into VAK
Boss, Resade


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CorrosiveCelvestian is not online. CorrosiveCelvestian
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15 Oct 2016 11:19 PM
Servio do you by any chance have the discord for uniform makers?


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