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Re: Clans are getting real desperate o_O

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Flect is not online. Flect
Joined: 15 Aug 2010
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01 Oct 2016 11:30 AM
1. We started by creating "1v1" clan wars, by directly excluding our allies (even going as far as inserting group only scripts).
2. We all changed our bases to have raider limits (can only raid for ~2 hours) and raised the minimum defender requirement to 8 to allow the numbers to be closer.
3. People began to think cheating or modifying their base to win was "OK" because there really isn't any official rulebook in clans.
4. Following that, we now don't allow our first rank members to go to our fortresses in larger groups (the first rank is now considered trophies for member count and because newbies may cause defeat)
5. The minimum defender requirement got even worse when VAK sets the new high of equal numbers at their fort.

I'm just waiting for clans to completely shut out their ordinary group and only allow the elite divisions to battle it out. I understand why Nederlandz likes to blame clans like VAK, because they are a big time group, and they set an example for the smaller groups. People (in VAK) will deny VAK cheating or wiggling their way out of loss (they did) but that example is what people have followed. We're all crossing a line at the same time.

The clans that take their wars to C&G ###ays fail because of the complaining and false rumors. We need to avoid that for sure.

Some people in the past have considered cheating funny. Truthfully, I was apart of that crowd, but I think the reason the clan world has hit this big plateau is because of all of these poor examples clans are following. Some have realized it's no longer fun to be in clans for this reason, and that's why all these dingbats are still crying "Clans are dead (or dying)."

All of these people have suggested stuff like a "War Council" or something but the truth is nobody has real authority over any of us except for the administrators. If we as a community came to terms with something like that then wars can actually be organized and under other management in neutral territory. Like I said, people have proposed this, and they always say "it won't work." I think it won't either because clans are so stubborn and scared to lose that they don't want oversight.


TL;DR If only we had a rulebook or some regulations because maybe then we can have some fun.


~ UCR President
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Flect is not online. Flect
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01 Oct 2016 11:32 AM
clans that take their wars to ### always have wars that fail* Also, # realize we've changed our minimum defender limit because the clan community has gotten much better at gun fighting. That's why numbers really do matter nowadays. Thoughts? ~ ### President
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Flect is not online. Flect
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01 Oct 2016 11:33 AM
I really don't like this filter.

Clans that take their wars to Clans & Guilds don't have successful wars*


~ UCR President
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TranscendentGlory is not online. TranscendentGlory
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01 Oct 2016 11:33 AM
FoA-CoS war is alliance-based and the numbers are pretty fair. Like all around 10v17's and fair bases


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Externalization is not online. Externalization
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01 Oct 2016 11:34 AM
Agreed w/ a lot of these
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undefined_meme is not online. undefined_meme
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01 Oct 2016 11:34 AM
"TL;DR If only we had a rulebook or some regulations because maybe then we can have some fun."


or maybe have competent people raiding WarCor who are influential and can control negotiations, war scores, etc


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Profounder is not online. Profounder
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01 Oct 2016 11:34 AM
people get too picky on what is acceptable and what's not.


leading to the desperate attempts to take control of the situation and manipulate it so its in their clan's favour.


♚ "All hail Starscream" ♚
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Flect is not online. Flect
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01 Oct 2016 11:35 AM
"or maybe have competent people raiding WarCor who are influential and can control negotiations, war scores, etc"

But there are too many incompetent people and we can rule out half of the active clan world if you want to put competent people at the wheel lol. I already just said that people are too stubborn, and there's no way to work around this.


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VonPredator is not online. VonPredator
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01 Oct 2016 11:36 AM
this sounds like RAT and SC tbf


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Flect is not online. Flect
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01 Oct 2016 11:37 AM
Well, negotiating it in your favour is fine, I wholeheartedly think that's a great way to win wars, but the problem is that your opponent will realize you've done that and victimize themselves, and then proceed to end the war with bull excuses.


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LushLOLZ is not online. LushLOLZ
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01 Oct 2016 11:37 AM
flect idk what i just read lel im in 2 clans yet i forum more on RT
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VonPredator is not online. VonPredator
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01 Oct 2016 11:37 AM
@Lush he basically said UCR #1


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Profounder is not online. Profounder
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01 Oct 2016 11:38 AM
i mean when it comes to things like mercs and fort updates within war become too much of a hassle.


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Flect is not online. Flect
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01 Oct 2016 11:39 AM
SC doesn't cheat anymore, but they are upset and making many excuses because they're losing. That happens with everyone though? lol and that cannot be denied because we all know Resade would cry wolf if they were losing a war they expected to win (but I like boss and Resade don't think I dislike them cause they're beating my old group)

RAT is just ridiculous they think they can do whatever they want in their own perfect bureaucracy and I personally don't give a crap because none of them like me cause they discriminate redheads


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LushLOLZ is not online. LushLOLZ
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01 Oct 2016 11:40 AM
WELL no clan is #1 were all equal well not all of us some clans such as RAt when Rat fought csp a few weeks ago in the war they only let FOL fight and i wasnt allowed to fight
it all depends on skill and strategy and i just feel like clans is just like playing a game of risk
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VonPredator is not online. VonPredator
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01 Oct 2016 11:40 AM
nono I was referring to the part where they dont like the first ranks defend or such




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instaskills is not online. instaskills
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01 Oct 2016 11:41 AM
"WELL no clan is #1 were all equal well not all of us some clans such as RAt when Rat fought csp a few weeks ago in the war they only let FOL fight and i wasnt allowed to fight"

wait they only let fol fight?

rofl


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Zach1102 is not online. Zach1102
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01 Oct 2016 11:41 AM
preach it
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LushLOLZ is not online. LushLOLZ
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01 Oct 2016 11:43 AM
well @von ive been in 2 clans that do that Rat & UCR tbh i only go to clans that have a point system for promo cuz its fun but i dont get that hmmm well ik flect and other leaders always wanna win but for ffs U WONT DIE IF U LOSE IN A RAID IT JUST LOWERS UR REPUTATION OF UR CLAN THIS IS JUST A DIGITAL GAME FFS THIS ISNT A REAL WORLD WHERE THERES ARMIES AROUND THE WORLD FLYING IN A SHIP RAIDING FRICKIN BASES
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LushLOLZ is not online. LushLOLZ
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01 Oct 2016 11:46 AM
@insta idk u but u seem familiar plus yes they did only let FoL fight thus making other soilders like me not in that division being prohibited to fight THATS WHY RAT LOST AGAINST CSP
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r_y is not online. r_y
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01 Oct 2016 11:47 AM
I have to say the Sol Imperialis war I'm in is super fun because we have stratus and SRC in the war on our side as well.


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Tune is not online. Tune
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01 Oct 2016 11:48 AM
Agreed.

~Future UCR President

kiddin'
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VonPredator is not online. VonPredator
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01 Oct 2016 11:48 AM
UCR is going to be nothing like RAT or any of those clans


We don't care about winning its mainly fun.
Don't get me wrong we would like to win but we wouldn't stoop down to their tactics.

Its all about having fun and being in a wonderful community


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Flect is not online. Flect
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01 Oct 2016 11:48 AM
see instaskills that's what I'm saying man lol

RAT is another clan that sets bad examples (or I should say WAS setting bad examples, I don't know if Dmoney or Polonium have other plans) and anyone who thinks that's cool is just hook line and sinker


~ UCR President
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LushLOLZ is not online. LushLOLZ
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01 Oct 2016 11:49 AM
jus made another rant in ucrs group wall ive known flect for a month im sure im getting exiled then hes going to send me to VAK to get declined into VAK LOL
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