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AlienAstronaut is not online. AlienAstronaut
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26 Sep 2016 01:33 PM
now i'm not saying remove them, i'm saying make it impossible to view them

it's annoying how anyone can copy clothes, and i've seen users say "it's a way to combat price floors" the price floors do not justify the actions of clothing being copied.

if you want something you pay for it, if the item you want is offsale, tough luck. and it's so easy to make clothes! there are many tutorials on youtube.


idk what do y'all think about it


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666satan666lov is not online. 666satan666lov
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26 Sep 2016 01:50 PM
If item goes off sale and i really want it there is no harm in copying it as long as i dont sell it for profit.
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AlienAstronaut is not online. AlienAstronaut
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26 Sep 2016 02:01 PM
no, it's offsale.
copying is wrong.

say if someone makes a shirt for themselves, a personal shirt, and you copy it, you are taking away their uniqueness


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AlienAstronaut is not online. AlienAstronaut
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26 Sep 2016 02:06 PM
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666satan666lov is not online. 666satan666lov
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26 Sep 2016 02:15 PM
but if it use to be on sale and open to the public that means that it wouldnt be unique in the first place, and keep in mind it is just roblox clothes.
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AlienAstronaut is not online. AlienAstronaut
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26 Sep 2016 02:16 PM
on sale or not you have no right to copy someones work

"keep in mind it is just roblox clothes."

and roblox clothes take time to make


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666satan666lov is not online. 666satan666lov
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26 Sep 2016 02:17 PM
whether or not they take time to make, if an item was on sale and then it is off sale meaning that other people have already bought it, there is no reason i shouldnt be able to make a copy of that item that other people already have as long as i put the credits to the original maker and as long as i do not sell it for profit.
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AlienAstronaut is not online. AlienAstronaut
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26 Sep 2016 02:24 PM
OH MY GOODNESS

"if an item was on sale and then it is off sale meaning that other people have already bought it"

NO, you have NO right to copy anyone's work no matter what, i dont care if it was on sale or not, if it's offsale it's offsale, deal with it.


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CodingBase is not online. CodingBase
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26 Sep 2016 02:54 PM
"If item goes off sale and i really want it there is no harm in copying it as long as i don't sell it for profit."

well, stealing clothes is stealing another person's profit, because why would you buy something when you can get it for FREE, right? even though you aren't selling it per se, it doesn't mean you aren't taking from the creator in the first place


"but if it use to be on sale and open to the public that means that it wouldn't be unique in the first place, and keep in mind it is just roblox clothes."

it being on sale doesn't mean there's "" no harm "" in taking the creator's clothes. there're many reasons why someone would take it off of sale - maybe it was they lost their bc, or they just simply didn't want it up for sale. either way, just because it's to the public does NOT mean it's up for grabs.
it's the same with people who post their artwork onto the internet, just because it's public doesn't mean someone is allowed to download it and reupload it.
also, it would still be "unique" because of the creator MADE it, instead of copying it in the first place. just people wear it besides the creator does not mean it's still not unique.
also just because it's "roblox clothes" doesn't mean it's super cool! =) it's like me uploading to dA, no matter where i upload it, it doesn't mean i pat you on the back and say "don't worry! it's just dA! don't take it too seriously, dude!"


"whether or not they take time to make, if an item was on sale and then it is off sale meaning that other people have already bought it, there is no reason i shouldn't be able to make a copy of that item that other people already have as long as i put the credits to the original maker and as long as i do not sell it for profit."

just because it's off sale and just because someone bought it doesn't mean it's UP FOR GRABS ! again, just because someone bought it, to support the creator ## ## be stylishly cool with their avatar, doesn't mean YOU can take it. there's MANY reasons why you should NOT be allowed to take clothes from creators.
1. it's THEIR clothes. THEY made it. this is why a bunch of creators STOP creating, because they're trying to give to the community but people just take it - it's no fun for them if all of the stuff they do is stolen by others.
2. you ARE taking money away from them, just because it's off sale doesn't mean you AREN'T taking money from them - just because you're not reselling it does NOT mean you AREN'T taking money from them. ("money" as in "robuxs") because what if they reopen it? again, there's many reasons why something is off sale. i'm 100% sure you wouldn't go rebuy it once it's up for sale again.
also just because you "" credit "" them doesn't mean it's ok, you stole it without their permission, and that IS stealing
again, just because YOU see nothing wrong with it means it's ok.

but, whatever, right?
people who steal clothes will always be like "but nothing wrong with it,,.,,"
while people who MAKE the clothes will likely oppose to it -- depends on the person of course,,

anyways this is long,


tl;dr
dont steal just cuz u aint reselling it or u r crediting them
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AlienAstronaut is not online. AlienAstronaut
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26 Sep 2016 03:01 PM
gET BLASTED


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26 Sep 2016 03:09 PM
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iiMonstahh is not online. iiMonstahh
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26 Sep 2016 03:13 PM
No.

Some people use plugins such as character spawners instead of manually going into play, copying the char, and pasting/grouping. To change the clothing, you need a clothing template.

Doing that would make game developing uber expensive, if you're inserting characters.



WHY CAN'T I SEE THE COLORS THAT YOU SEE?
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AlienAstronaut is not online. AlienAstronaut
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26 Sep 2016 04:22 PM
"No.

Some people use plugins such as character spawners instead of manually going into play, copying the char, and pasting/grouping. To change the clothing, you need a clothing template.

Doing that would make game developing uber expensive, if you're inserting characters."

I'm honestly confused on what you're talking about.
I'm saying, ROBLOX should make the clothing asset impossible to download and view since people copy clothes 24/7.

"To change the clothing, you need a clothing template."

Like I said, I'm not saying ROBLOX should remove the template, I'm saying they should make it invisible to view and download.


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CodingBase is not online. CodingBase
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26 Sep 2016 04:23 PM
i don't have any real idea how studio + plugins and etc work, so i can't really reply to anything regarding that, but if an update / feature (in this case, showing the asset templates) has more cons than pros, it should be removed.
even if this is a pro of having the update, there's many cons to it.
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justcool110 is not online. justcool110
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26 Sep 2016 04:26 PM
Don't bump 2 times with in 24hrs but copying is sort of needed right now with roblox removing tickets what is there for the nbcs that get nothing anytime?


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AlienAstronaut is not online. AlienAstronaut
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26 Sep 2016 04:27 PM
"Don't bump 2 times with in 24hrs but copying"

fam i am pretty sure i know how the forums work


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AlienAstronaut is not online. AlienAstronaut
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26 Sep 2016 04:29 PM
"but copying is sort of needed right now with roblox removing tickets what is there for the nbcs that get nothing anytime?"

Um, only BC members can copy clothes so I'm not sure how tickets are relevant in any of this ?


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justcool110 is not online. justcool110
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26 Sep 2016 04:29 PM
fam it's annoying you are proving your point of being an attention seeker


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AlienAstronaut is not online. AlienAstronaut
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26 Sep 2016 04:32 PM
"fam it's annoying you are proving your point of being an attention seeker"

attention seeker ?

i'm sorry but do you make clothes?? i'm trying to get this thread the attention it deserves because clothes keep being copied and no one is doing anything about it


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justcool110 is not online. justcool110
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26 Sep 2016 04:33 PM
I actually have made clothing none of which was copied I was using NBC shirt creator and the templates are needed for the gamedevs (E.g. Kohls admin) to change the shirts they access the templates to put it on the character


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CodingBase is not online. CodingBase
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26 Sep 2016 04:33 PM
"[snip] but copying is sort of needed right now with roblox removing tickets what is there for the nbcs that get nothing anytime?"

copying isn't really needed, even when tickets are removed. clothes aren't that important in the first place, so users don't need to steal to make their avatar "nice" - those who own bc and create the clothes are the ones who are supporting roblox inc and roblox needs to protect it's creators. if they're listening to nbcs, (who can't afford to buy bc / robuxs, which isn't NEEDED, because roblox isn't a "pay to win" kind of game, and a lot of the games on roblox are free, and they have built in catalogs) and not listening to the CREATORS, the people who are making roblox roblox -- then it's a system that isn't fair.

while i do believe nbcs should have some way of having their voices matter, (me being nbc until recently - and people can't always afford it) when it comes to the catalog, (again, where you need to buy robuxs or bc) it's not 100% needed vs the creator's voices - if that makes sense
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justcool110 is not online. justcool110
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26 Sep 2016 04:35 PM
You are crazy, the shirts are needed have you seen the noobs? They are always being made fun of being poor and having no robux


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justcool110 is not online. justcool110
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26 Sep 2016 04:37 PM
and I have bought 6month bc 3 times so you can't use the 'BC support ROBLOX'


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AlienAstronaut is not online. AlienAstronaut
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26 Sep 2016 04:37 PM
"I actually have made clothing none of which was copied I was using NBC shirt creator and the templates are needed for the gamedevs"

NPC shirt uploading glitch was patched a very long time ago.

"the templates are needed for the gamedevs"

oh my goodness im getting sick of this
i'm saying make it impossible to VIEW and DOWNLOAD templates counting its possible
i'm not saying dont make it possible to upload it


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AlienAstronaut is not online. AlienAstronaut
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26 Sep 2016 04:38 PM
"the shirts are needed have you seen the noobs?"

um, you realise that ROBLOX is a free to play game, character customisation is optional


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