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Re: "Both Tonigrad and SMO will be fitted for 8v15"

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ShatteredQ is not online. ShatteredQ
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17 Sep 2016 05:46 PM
is VAK mental or like?


SMO is a challenging base in itself and Tonigrad is so easy that green gods has won there, this is like comparing cake to a pig's pen.

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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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17 Sep 2016 05:47 PM
We are talking about the same tonigrad right?



~Vakdonalds vs TRAco Bell 2.5 - 0 TRAco leading~
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IcyRedemption is not online. IcyRedemption
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17 Sep 2016 05:48 PM
SMO was a good challenge in a 15v15, with 8v15 I actually feel bad for VAK, considering TRA is going to get a ton of people joining to fight VAK.

That's almost 2:1 odds, and the spawns are almost 100% event at the moment, unless changes have been made I'm unaware of.


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ShatteredQ is not online. ShatteredQ
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17 Sep 2016 05:48 PM
Tonigrad is easy as hell to win, if you have issues with the base your team is just incompetent my dude

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AtomicRXN is not online. AtomicRXN
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17 Sep 2016 05:48 PM
Wow so first we're complaining about 9v15s at SMO (which was a misunderstanding) now we're complaining about 8v15s at TRA.

Cmon now dude.
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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17 Sep 2016 05:49 PM
We had our spawn adjusted very little but yeah it's about the same.




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ShatteredQ is not online. ShatteredQ
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17 Sep 2016 05:49 PM
And Icy I would've felt the same way if I hadn't learned that VAK made updates to SMO already

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zepenguin4 is not online. zepenguin4
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17 Sep 2016 05:49 PM
VAK spawn was moved up and an extra door was added (not sure on that door though)
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liber8or is not online. liber8or
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17 Sep 2016 05:49 PM
you could 1v15 raid and still win
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HarbingerXIl is not online. HarbingerXIl
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17 Sep 2016 05:49 PM
Shattered has nothing better to do but to complain about everything.

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narits is not online. narits
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17 Sep 2016 05:49 PM
smo is 9v15 apparently

Adam.
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ShatteredQ is not online. ShatteredQ
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17 Sep 2016 05:49 PM
Spawn was moved up, and Igoing said

"VAK did a practice raiding using their members and decided that VAK needed more advantages

They moved the spawn up, added an extra gate, and made it 9 for official, all without asking TRA for permission when it happened"

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IcyRedemption is not online. IcyRedemption
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17 Sep 2016 05:49 PM
Just trust what's happening, TRA is negotiating with them, no need for all of these stupid assumptions.


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zepenguin4 is not online. zepenguin4
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17 Sep 2016 05:50 PM
"We had our spawn adjusted very little but yeah it's about the same.
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It was moved up quite a lot actually.
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ShatteredQ is not online. ShatteredQ
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17 Sep 2016 05:51 PM
As always the Vaktovians defend their claims of updates to *Balance*


"Raiders *do* have the overall advantage at SMO and updates will be made to fix this."~Ttom

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Centauri07 is not online. Centauri07
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17 Sep 2016 05:51 PM
What SQ said.

Your raiding time has to be completely incompetent and actually bad at fighting in order to lose against basic TRA members.

If you're going against a lot of our avid defenders, you're going to get a run for your money.

It's all about the tactics you use and how you adapt them.
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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17 Sep 2016 05:51 PM
You're clearly just complaining to complain. You clearly don't enjoy this game so every war you have to make a post like this based on things you hear.

If it's not one thing you complain about the other.
Personally Tonigrad isn't that easy unless you have all the vehicles available to you.



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ShatteredQ is not online. ShatteredQ
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17 Sep 2016 05:53 PM
"You're clearly just complaining to complain. You clearly don't enjoy this game so every war you have to make a post like this based on things you hear.

If it's not one thing you complain about the other.
Personally Tonigrad isn't that easy unless you have all the vehicles available to you."

I do enjoy defending tonigrad due to it being easy for raiders and a challenge for us, on the other hand SMO is just a cakewalk for defending team as proven several times.

You all have to pull updates out of your ass to cover it.

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TheMedievalist is not online. TheMedievalist
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17 Sep 2016 05:55 PM
Actually SMO is insanely hard to defend when there's 15 holding the terminal and 6-7 rushing to take it over yet we still won.
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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17 Sep 2016 05:56 PM
Personally I have no clue where it was originally zep.
SMO is basically SH2.
Of course the spawn is up more and it is designed for vak.

And yeah Cent my first server I don't remember everyone in it but it had Antonio and a few others, the worst part was that we lost a lot people randomly.

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ShatteredQ is not online. ShatteredQ
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17 Sep 2016 05:56 PM
So once SMO becomes a challenge to defend you make updates is what you're pointing at Med?

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pokecatchsoul is not online. pokecatchsoul
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17 Sep 2016 05:57 PM
The recent GG without Ryan2K at the helm, or the previous GG with a legitimate auty leader?
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ShatteredQ is not online. ShatteredQ
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17 Sep 2016 05:57 PM
Even with the best defending team, Tonigrad is fast paced.

Like when FoA miraculously won against Igoing, Stabby, Thorayes, and etc.

So don't make excuses when SMO is a pain to raid in its own

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Frostarkz is not online. Frostarkz
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17 Sep 2016 05:59 PM
vak has always been the same
never changed
never will

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ShatteredQ is not online. ShatteredQ
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17 Sep 2016 06:00 PM
Well people forget the obvious a bunch Frost

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