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Re: ROBLOXHOLIDAY vs. ROBLOXCHRISTMAS... Why should we care?

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FestiveVakEmpire is not online. FestiveVakEmpire
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14 Sep 2016 09:49 AM
First off, this doesn't violate the What not to Suggest. I read the whole thing just to make sure. By the way there's not a tl;dr version but I'll do some summaries.
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I've played ROBLOX for a good 5 years. I consider myself a loyal customer to this game, buying TBC, in game benefits, and whatnot. Of course now that I've got older it's been harder for me to stay active. But some things in ROBLOX are important to me, and maybe others who are just too afraid to speak up or maybe not even notice at all. What am I talking about?

Well, outside of ROBLOX, Christmas and the other Holidays, such as Hanakkuh and Kwanzaa, are very important to people. Things are associated with them. Hanukkah is celebrated for eight days to mark the eight days the oil burned. People celebrate Hanukkah by lighting candles on a menorah, which is also called a Hanukiyah. Each night, one more candle is lit.

And the Kwanzaa celebration honors African heritage in African-American culture. It's observed from December 26 to January 1, culminating in a feast and gift-giving. Kwanzaa has seven core principles (Nguzo Saba). It was created by Maulana Karenga and was first celebrated in 1966–67.

**Many people in the United States celebrate Christmas Day on December 25. The day celebrates Jesus Christ's birth, and can also be associated with gifts gaven from the spirit of Santa Clause. It is often combined with customs from pre-Christian winter celebrations. Many people erect Christmas trees, decorate their homes, visit family or friends and exchange gifts. **

So to recap, Hanakkuh is celebrated by the lighting the candle for 8 days to celebrate when, as the story goes, a flask was found with enough oil to light a candle for 1 day but instead stayed lit for 8 days. Kwanzaa celebrates African American culture with celebrations, feasts, and the receiving of gifts.

You could argue that since while celebrating Kwanzaa you could possibly give gifts that they call it ROBLOXHOLIDAY to be more broad. And many people argue this same principal, why when you go to the store it's

'This Holiday Season...'

or

'This Winter Season...'

It's really the only time we don't actually say Merry Christmas but don't apply this rule to any other holidays, like thanksgiving, labor day, or halloween.

But should ROBLOX follow this same fate in the name of what's popular to do now?
Though Kwanzaa does have associations to gift giving, so does people's Birthdays. Or baby showers. Anniversaries. Company parties. Christmas. Christmas too, going farther back than 1967, and maybe even hundreds of years back, associates with the idea of giving gifts.

It's really the only time we don't actually say Merry Christmas but don't apply this rule to any other holidays, such as thanksgiving, labor day, or halloween. (to name a few) So why discriminate against one holiday? Is it really going to hurt someone who doesn't celebrate it? Not everyone celebrates everything, so we may as well just call it all 'Happy Holidays' to be fair.

So here I make my case, and a rather good one at that.

Please just call it ROBLOXCHRISTMAS. It's not going to harm anyone.
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Castlemore is not online. Castlemore
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14 Sep 2016 09:54 AM
What the hell is Kwanzaa?


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FestiveVakEmpire is not online. FestiveVakEmpire
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14 Sep 2016 10:18 AM
Exactly!
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Borsy is not online. Borsy
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14 Sep 2016 10:31 AM
no support because you're telling people you are a "loyal customer" when there are customers more loyal than you


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Sufganiyot is not online. Sufganiyot
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14 Sep 2016 10:34 AM
Support.




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FestiveVakEmpire is not online. FestiveVakEmpire
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14 Sep 2016 10:43 AM
'no support because you're telling people you are a "loyal customer" when there are customers more loyal than you'


I just said that to make some sort of hook, not to be literal.

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Henrypika is not online. Henrypika
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14 Sep 2016 11:54 AM
ROBLOX Holiday.

I'm respectful of all religions. I have nothing against them. Just against ROBLOX. And so I don't play games.
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FestiveVakEmpire is not online. FestiveVakEmpire
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14 Sep 2016 08:26 PM
It's not disrespectful to say Merry Christmas, because it's basically a secular holiday amongst many beliefs.

Let's say 'Happy Holidays' for Halloween because I don't believe in it.

See the logic applied?
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FestiveVakEmpire is not online. FestiveVakEmpire
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15 Sep 2016 01:19 PM
Making this thread active again. I'll continue to do so until December, or when I get a reply that change will be made.



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OIivine is not online. OIivine
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15 Sep 2016 01:24 PM
tl;dr


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FestiveVakEmpire is not online. FestiveVakEmpire
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15 Sep 2016 03:31 PM
Bump again.
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spydig is not online. spydig
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15 Sep 2016 03:49 PM
No support, Christmas has no meaning to most Americans anymore. It's just the day of presents and a day off. (Yes, the pious Americans do take it to have meaning: but that doesn't matter.) Hanukkah items are given already and Kwanzza is irrelevant to most Americans.
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happypogo123 is not online. happypogo123
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15 Sep 2016 03:53 PM
Just because you celebrate Christmas, that doesn't give right to tell off people who don't celebrate Christmas. Try being in a German camp, it's not as fun as it sounds.


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re7hf is not online. re7hf
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15 Sep 2016 04:12 PM
tl;dr


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FestiveVakEmpire is not online. FestiveVakEmpire
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15 Sep 2016 08:58 PM
"No support, Christmas has no meaning to most Americans anymore. It's just the day of presents and a day off. (Yes, the pious Americans do take it to have meaning: but that doesn't matter.) Hanukkah items are given already and Kwanzza is irrelevant to most Americans."
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If it had no meaning people wouldn't push for this "meaningless" holiday to have a name change, when they don't do that to other holidays, such as Halloween (Which does have a type of belief system around it for pagans).

It's not about forcing people to celebrate Christmas, which I'm not trying to do, but preserve the namesake of the holiday. Just because I don't celebrate all holidays, which I doubt you and I celebrate all, I don't call for it to be something else. That's the type of situation I'm trying to show to you here, if you see what I mean.
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"Just because you celebrate Christmas, that doesn't give right to tell off people who don't celebrate Christmas. Try being in a German camp, it's not as fun as it sounds."

Mind telling me where I told people off who don't celebrate Christmas?

This is my main point that you overlooked, but I bet you just read the header and jumped to the reply button since your reply doesn't match to the content of my original post.

Here was my summary:

**It's really the only time we don't actually say Merry Christmas but don't apply this rule to any other holidays, such as thanksgiving, labor day, or halloween. (to name a few) So why discriminate against one holiday? Is it really going to hurt someone who doesn't celebrate it? Not everyone celebrates everything, so we may as well just call it all 'Happy Holidays' to be fair.**

If ROBLOX were trying to be more inclusive, which I bet is what you'd want, Then make something for Hanukkah or Kwanzaa, but don't call it 'Holiday' because that does not denote an actual event. I could say Holiday for the fourth of july for all I care. And commercials call Labor Day the 'Holiday Weekend'.

Maybe if you read my post...


But oh well

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FestiveVakEmpire is not online. FestiveVakEmpire
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15 Sep 2016 08:58 PM
(insert bump here)
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Boxxxxxxxxxxx is not online. Boxxxxxxxxxxx
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15 Sep 2016 09:03 PM
I support this idea as what you say makes a lot of sense.

I hope other people see this in a critical manner like I do.

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16 Sep 2016 04:59 AM
Spanish translation:

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He jugado ROBLOX durante unos 5 años buenos. Me considero un cliente leal a este juego, comprando TBC, en beneficios animosos, y whatnot. Por supuesto ahora que tengo más viejo ha sido más difícil para mí quedarse activo. Pero algunas cosas en ROBLOX son importantes para mí, y tal vez otros que sólo tienen también miedo de hablar o tal vez no hasta para notar en absoluto. ¿De qué hablo?

Bien, fuera de ROBLOX, la Navidad y las otras Vacaciones, como Hanakkuh y Kwanzaa, son muy importantes para la gente. Las cosas tienen que ver con ellos. La Hanukkah es celebrada durante ocho días para marcar los ocho días el petróleo quemado. La gente celebra la Hanukkah encendiendo la iluminación de velas en un menorah, que también es llamado un Hanukiyah. Cada noche, uno más vela es encendida.

Y la celebración Kwanzaa honra la herencia africana en la cultura Afroamericana. Es observado del 26 de diciembre al 1 de enero, culminando en un banquete y dar regalo. El Kwanzaa tiene siete principios principales (Nguzo Saba). Fue creado por Maulana Karenga y fue primero celebrado en 1966–67.

** Muchas personas en los Estados Unidos celebran el Día de Navidad el 25 de diciembre. El día celebra el nacimiento de Jesucristo, y también puede tener que ver con regalos gaven del espíritu de la Cláusula Santa. A menudo es combinado con la aduana de celebraciones de invierno precristianas. Muchas personas erigen Árboles de Navidad, decoran sus casas, visitan familia o amigos y cambian regalos. **

Tan resumir, Hanakkuh es celebrado por la iluminación de la vela durante 8 días para divertirse cuando, cuando la historia va, un matraz fue encontrado con bastante petróleo para encender una vela durante 1 día, pero en cambio se quedó encendido durante 8 días. El Kwanzaa celebra la cultura americana africana con celebraciones, banquetes, y la recepción de regalos.

Usted podría sostener que desde celebrando Kwanzaa usted podría dar posiblemente regalos que ellos lo llaman ROBLOXHOLIDAY para ser más amplios. Y muchas personas argumentan a este mismo principal, por qué cuando usted va a la tienda es

'Esta Temporada de Vacaciones ...'

o

'Este Invierno ...'

Esto es realmente el único tiempo que realmente no decimos que Merry Christmas pero no aplica esta regla a ninguna otra vacación, como acción de gracias, Día del Trabajo, o Víspera de todos los Santos.

¿Pero debe ROBLOX seguir este mismo destino en nombre de qué es popular para hacer ahora?
Aunque Kwanzaa tenga realmente asociaciones al regalo dar, los Cumpleaños de la gente también . O el bebé se ducha. Aniversarios. Partidos de compañía. Navidad. La Navidad también, yendo más atrás que 1967, y tal vez hasta cientos de años atrás, se asocia con la idea de dar regalos.

Esto es realmente el único tiempo que realmente no decimos que Merry Christmas pero no aplica esta regla a ninguna otra vacación, como acción de gracias, Día del Trabajo, o Víspera de todos los Santos. ¿(para llamar unos cuantos) Entonces, por qué discriminan a vacaciones? ¿Realmente va esto a hacer daño a alguien que no lo celebra? No cada uno celebra todo, entonces podemos llamar sólo también todo esto 'Felices Fiestas' para ser justos.

Así aquí doy mis razones, y uno bastante bueno en esto.

Por favor sólo llámelo ROBLOXCHRISTMAS. Esto no va a dañar a alguien.
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16 Sep 2016 09:38 AM
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Borsy is not online. Borsy
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16 Sep 2016 10:01 AM
trastorno del espectro autista que tengo


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16 Sep 2016 10:10 AM
Lo siento Borsy


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16 Sep 2016 11:58 AM
Another bump.

continuing this thread til december just so y'all know
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