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Re: @VAK About SMO

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ForgedVoid is not online. ForgedVoid
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07 Sep 2016 02:08 PM
Was anything updated that actually helps the raiders besides the hole in the arch to the left of our spawn?

- Removed one bunker from the original three buildings on the south side of the base: will make it harder for raiders to push the gate

-Added more cover in the the VAK forest

-Made raider obby much harder (although still simple and easy, it's harder than before and much more easily campable.

-Made it harder for raiders to get on the mountains, takes nearly 6+ people to get up on the high mountains (on VAK's side it takes 4 people max)

-Added 2 bunkers on the East wall, the wall near VAK's cave/obby, making it much easier to get raiders off of the first floor and allows more effective rushes on the gate to occur

Thanks for the great, balanced updates :)



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Corlanius is not online. Corlanius
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07 Sep 2016 02:09 PM
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ForgedVoid is not online. ForgedVoid
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07 Sep 2016 02:11 PM
Even if SMO was raided sided, were all these updates needed to assure your free defense wins?


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inf3rnalized is not online. inf3rnalized
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07 Sep 2016 02:11 PM
i thought people have gotten used to vaks updates


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TranscendentGlory is not online. TranscendentGlory
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07 Sep 2016 02:13 PM
raiders *do* have the advantage at SMO, updates will be made to fix that. -ttom25rocks 2016 FoA-VAK war negotiations when he got mad that FoA 11-0ed VAK at smo


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inf3rnalized is not online. inf3rnalized
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07 Sep 2016 02:16 PM
transcendent im not 100% SURE
but it was mainly soticule forces members and the rest of pauls squad that were in FoA at the time so now that im pretty sure 80% of them left youd get destroyed


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SneeringTotalitarian is not online. SneeringTotalitarian
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07 Sep 2016 02:16 PM
Thank you TransgenderGlory!


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gostriderthe2 is not online. gostriderthe2
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07 Sep 2016 02:17 PM
Weren't you in VAK
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ForgedVoid is not online. ForgedVoid
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07 Sep 2016 02:17 PM
"Raiders can use all of these points to their advantage as well!"

true, but most of the positive updates done were:

on the VAK side of the fort

and then most of the negative updates done were.....

obviously on the raider side

and most of the time VAK/Raiders never have to use the other obstacle course/pathway unless they're being trapped out of their own obby, which if I may also add it's much easier for VAK to do this because they can stack with what, 3-4 people? whereas it takes raiders 6+ to get up on the high mountains from their side


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ForgedVoid is not online. ForgedVoid
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07 Sep 2016 02:17 PM
"Weren't you in VAK"

yes what does this have to do with anything i said

but yeah


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inf3rnalized is not online. inf3rnalized
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07 Sep 2016 02:18 PM
honestly if people still care about vak making stupid updates then thats pretty dumb


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ForgedVoid is not online. ForgedVoid
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07 Sep 2016 02:19 PM
*awaits justification on recent updates*

*looks back to when bektor said original SMO was completely even and very challenging for the raiders*

*SCRATCHES HEAD UHHH*




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ForgedVoid is not online. ForgedVoid
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07 Sep 2016 02:20 PM
they havent really made much updates until after they closed SMO after about 5-7 months of it being open


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07 Sep 2016 02:29 PM
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XXtaskforce is not online. XXtaskforce
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07 Sep 2016 02:40 PM
"but it was mainly soticule forces members and the rest of pauls squad that were in FoA at the time so now that im pretty sure 80% of them left youd get destroyed"

lol


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Tylerfuse is not online. Tylerfuse
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07 Sep 2016 02:42 PM
@Forged about how you smell


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Externalization is not online. Externalization
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07 Sep 2016 02:44 PM
raiders *do* have the advantage at SMO, updates will be made to fix that.
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nitroyoshi9 is not online. nitroyoshi9
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07 Sep 2016 02:50 PM
I see a lot of great people on this forum, but there's one really major issue I've noticed, and it's bad enough that I've decided to leave this forum for good. Simply put: no one in this group seems open to the notion that it's time to dispel with this fiction that raiders *don't* have the overall advantage at SMO. Wake up people; raiders *do* have the overall advantage at SMO. Until you all are ready to acknowledge this, I won't be posting anymore.
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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07 Sep 2016 02:52 PM
Well, Raiders do in fact have the advantage at SMO!
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nitroyoshi9 is not online. nitroyoshi9
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07 Sep 2016 02:53 PM
I think you are on to something. In addition to what you said, we need to dispel this fiction once and for all that raiders *don't* have the overall advantage at SMO. Truthfully speaking, they *do* have the overall advantage at SMO.
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exoSentinel is not online. exoSentinel
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07 Sep 2016 02:57 PM


Your obby is still easier than ours, and it's not an easier to camp than ours is.

We added more cover to the VAK forest because the gate tower and terminal building are closer to our side, and you can lay down fire on us from those locations. On your side, you can get all the way to the raider obby without a bullet touching you from gate tower or terminal building.

Either side of the mountains can be accessed by frog jumping with 2 people.


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nitroyoshi9 is not online. nitroyoshi9
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07 Sep 2016 02:58 PM
I get what you're saying, but we are doomed as a forum until we dispel this fiction that raiders *don't* have the overall advantage at SMO. Raiders *do* have the overall advantage at SMO.
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Externalization is not online. Externalization
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07 Sep 2016 02:59 PM
Sentinels so raiders can't even have that advantage lol??

Raiders have the harder objective of holding down the base for 30 minutes and being able to shoot down VAK before they got in was a legit strategy lol
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nitroyoshi9 is not online. nitroyoshi9
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07 Sep 2016 03:00 PM
I think anyone who believes that raiders *don't* have the overall advantage at SMO doesn’t understand what we’re dealing with here. Okay?
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