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Re: "Scripters should work for free to help the clan community!"

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MrZelo is online. MrZelo
Joined: 07 Jul 2008
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06 Sep 2016 10:54 PM
That sentence triggers me.

This community doesnt deserve squat. Anyone who thinks otherwise should give a good reason on why it does. Because I could make a novel on why it doesnt. With a movie adaptation to go along with it. There is a reason why the administration forgot about us, why most of the good devs quit, why most of the current devs dont produce much, or why they flock to one exclusive group.

There is a reason and you are blind to see it
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CrimsonForce is not online. CrimsonForce
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06 Sep 2016 10:56 PM
ok whats the reason


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CommanderExalted is not online. CommanderExalted
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06 Sep 2016 10:58 PM
we're all edgy teens that flame eachother constantly @crimson


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LadyVengeance is not online. LadyVengeance
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06 Sep 2016 10:58 PM
You didnt provide a reason

To be fair, they should work for free sometimes.

But, they shouldn't have to or be shunned for not doing so.

They should at least teach others how to do these services so that there won't be such a disproportionate amount of clans going without tech they need. That's one reason I believe the clan world is ''dying''
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
Joined: 26 Apr 2014
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06 Sep 2016 10:58 PM
Can you go and work in a cubical now

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Zach1102 is not online. Zach1102
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06 Sep 2016 11:00 PM
Too late.
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MrZelo is online. MrZelo
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06 Sep 2016 11:04 PM
@lady. See, thats the problem. Scripters had to teach themselves originally. Its the fact that youre too lazy to learn. Hence why most dont bother. We cant put that drive kn you.

And free? You mean you want us to take time out of our day to make something from scratch for a community that treats people with such toxicity? And this "sometimes", who do we chose to create it for? The community? Most of it is biased crap for self interest. No one would use a universal system because not everyone will conform to it. Everyone wants to be unique.

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ImperialOutcast is not online. ImperialOutcast
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06 Sep 2016 11:05 PM
That sentence triggers me.

This community doesnt deserve squat. Anyone who thinks otherwise should give a good reason on why it does. Because I could make a novel on why it doesnt. With a movie adaptation to go along with it. There is a reason why the administration forgot about us, why most of the good devs quit, why most of the current devs dont produce much, or why they flock to one exclusive group.

There is a reason and you are blind to see it [2]


This man is a genius.
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nitroyoshi9 is not online. nitroyoshi9
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
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06 Sep 2016 11:12 PM
Our communication was good, everything was well we showed the world blah blah blah we all get the jist of it.

Anyways, so basically what I came to talk to you all about is over the past few days we've been losing quite a few Venezians, a lot of people have been leaving and right now it seems as if the older generation is disappearing and the newer generation is coming in, and life is gonna go on and keep moving forward. Recently, I've been going through some crap and some good, simultaneously day after day, because I tell you women just, I don't even know man, just mess with your emotions.

I get insulted by the generals all the time because they say I act on emotion, they say the things that I do represents Venezia poorly; the things that I am hurts more than it helps. People tell me that my grammar is bad, people tell me that the whole idea behind me is a failure. I've been told multiple times that my life is a failure. People-- girls, generally, leave me because I'm too nice or I treat them well because I refuse to be someone I refuse to be a person that is awful, and I refuse to be somebody that I'm not, I refuse to not be the real me. 'Cause if I'm flaw-- if I'm fake then what do I represent? If I represent somebody else, then I'm not a Venezian.

The example that I am portraying to you is to be somebody that you're not. The example that I'm trying to tell- trying to teach you is that if I tell you to be somebody that you're not, then you're just gonna go about life that this is how you should be because this is what they think that's going to make you successful. I tell you that's wrong however you do-- you do need to think before you speak. That does not mean you cannot be yourself. That does not mean you cannot express the way that you think things should be. It doesn't mean that you should listen to what other people say.

You need to take things with a grain of freakin' salt. That doesn't mean you need to give up on what you believe in.

If you think you wanna be a general one day or do you think you would be president of the freaking United States. I'm not going to tell you I'm not going to say I'm not going to just say you can do anything you think you want because that's wrong. I can tell you is you ge-- you can do anything you believe you can do. If you think you could actually do some things, you probably can, but you need to have discipline. If you come up with excuses and you just tell yourself like you're gonna do it because everyone says you could and you're not gonna be able to do it. Success in life is not by chance, but by choice. Everything you do, you choose to do. Everything you make comes with responsibilities and every action you take you are responsible for it.

So, when you choose to do something, you need to be mindful of what you are doing. This goes for Venezia and the rest of life. If a officer tells you you are doing something wrong, you probably are doing something wrong. It's something you can fix, but that doesn't to change your personality. Just because someone doesn't like doesn't mean you can't be yourself. So don't let anybody tell you you can't do something and if somebody tells you not to act on emotion tell them to go be quiet, because everything we do, everything in life is based off our emotions, whether we think about it or not, indirectly, unless you're a sociopath.

And the thing about Venezia is nobody's gonna shut us down and nobody's gonna be able to tear us apart. Nobody. Everybody can tell us apart from the rest of the clan world because we use a our fists to puncture a hole, in every raid we take in the heart of clans and guilds. When we lose, we don't just sit down and complain about what problems are wrong with their base, instead we come back without making an excuse and we adapt.
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EmeraldStatic is not online. EmeraldStatic
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06 Sep 2016 11:14 PM
shut up ImperialLoser you dont know how to script or develop youre bad

~marco
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SummerSurfer is not online. SummerSurfer
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06 Sep 2016 11:15 PM
roblox is limited in a developing point of view


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HiddenJuke is not online. HiddenJuke
Joined: 08 Oct 2011
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06 Sep 2016 11:20 PM
A lot of these scripters are skids that won't dev for free. They also play a huge factor in plaguing this forum. [1]

That's the reason.
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MrZelo is online. MrZelo
Joined: 07 Jul 2008
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07 Sep 2016 05:40 AM
@hidden. That is the nost selfish thing I have ever heard. Go work a job for free IRL to "benefit" your community and see how long you last
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galbotrix is not online. galbotrix
Joined: 19 Dec 2008
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07 Sep 2016 05:46 AM
The reason either the good builders such as myself or the good scripters only work for a clan they have self interest is because they have faith in that one group to be more community oriented, to have a improve their activity and the devs believes they can truly reach this point. Most of the good devs only want to work for a clan that will appreciate them instead of being pushed to finish something and not fully enjoy their work.

Most clan mistreat developers, pushing them around a deadline that sometimes is not possible for them and then getting upset with them when they can't finish in said time.

If clans were more out there and generous to the community as a whole instead of only looking to be seen as #1 by others things would be a lot different for us right now.

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legomada is not online. legomada
Joined: 16 Jan 2009
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07 Sep 2016 05:50 AM
How 'bout you treat developers as members of clans rather than some kind of resource to be distributed around clans to waste their time working for people they don't know to help a group they don't even care about to survive for a week before dying off. People do what they think is fun, and most clan devs were just clan members who learned to dev to help their clan - of course they're going to work for that clan and not "the community"
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Finalities is not online. Finalities
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07 Sep 2016 06:08 AM
To be fair Zelo, you add a fair amount of toxicity to any forum you reply to.
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MrZelo is online. MrZelo
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07 Sep 2016 06:28 AM
@gal. Exactly. On top of that people should take their own initiative to learn it thenselves. But again are too lazy to do it so they blame the developers for being so exclusive. Its generous enough when devs offer their services outside of their own clan Regardless if you have to pay. If you dont want to then dont be lazy and learn to do it yourself.

@final. Sorry Im not some push over whose going to conform to people walking all over me and be mister "nice guy", while youve begged me time and time again to not be mean yo you. Considering youve scammed numerous people stealing their clans in the process and reselling them. Youre one of the worst ones here.
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ZetaEternal is not online. ZetaEternal
Joined: 15 Apr 2016
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07 Sep 2016 06:43 AM
If you think you deserve something for free, then you actually don't deserve it at all.
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Kutoru is not online. Kutoru
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07 Sep 2016 06:50 AM
free is bad
work is good
school is bad


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Critical_Slayer is not online. Critical_Slayer
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07 Sep 2016 06:53 AM
To be honest, the Clan community will keep on trucking no matter what, regardless of losses.
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Arcadrion is not online. Arcadrion
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07 Sep 2016 07:04 AM
https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=197997994

Another topic 2 discuss if you're interested.


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HiddenJuke is not online. HiddenJuke
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07 Sep 2016 09:36 AM
Zelo, I believe you greatly misinterpreted the meaning of my statements. I never said I was one of them and you also can't deny that what I said was true, unless you mindlessly forum on this horrid game.
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jltom is not online. jltom
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07 Sep 2016 09:38 AM
Scripters should work for free only if they want to work for free, regardless if a community is bad or good.


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steamsport is not online. steamsport
Joined: 26 Apr 2014
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07 Sep 2016 09:40 AM
If you have an interesting idea. Can befriend people, people are interested and you are not a pushy idiot. Most #### will help you if you know who to ask. The best type of developer is the one who is free because when they do the work they are ##### ## #### actual interest or a level of interest in the idea and want to finish the project just as much. Kid gets homework Kid doesn't want to do homework mom pushes kid to finish homework with no incentive Kid blows off homework etc.
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ZyphrMagik is not online. ZyphrMagik
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07 Sep 2016 09:41 AM
Stop generalizing devs as "toxic" and "don't produce much."

There are devs that are amazing at what they do and are very decent individuals.
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