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coolarmando is not online. coolarmando
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01 Sep 2016 01:56 PM
if an illusion is perfect, does it become the truth? what is truth in the first place and how can the illusion not be the truth if its perfect?


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stack_up is not online. stack_up
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01 Sep 2016 01:57 PM
Use the preview function next time


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metaknight200 is not online. metaknight200
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01 Sep 2016 01:59 PM
well it wouldn't be true because it's an illusion

an illusion is something that's not actually there


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coolarmando is not online. coolarmando
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01 Sep 2016 02:00 PM
@meta

how can you tell? how can you tell that reality isnt an illusion, a perfect one?


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metaknight200 is not online. metaknight200
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01 Sep 2016 02:03 PM
well because if it was an illusion nothing would exist or i'd have eyes that apparently don't see a single thing the way they're supposed to look


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coolarmando is not online. coolarmando
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01 Sep 2016 02:04 PM
@meta

but its a perfect one, you cant tell that nothing is there

how can you tell that reality isnt one too


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metaknight200 is not online. metaknight200
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01 Sep 2016 02:08 PM
..if my desk were an illusion, i couldn't put my arms on it


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coolarmando is not online. coolarmando
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01 Sep 2016 02:09 PM
the idea of a perfect illusion is the same as dividing with 0, how can something that doesnt exist be perfect, that means it would be real, but its still not, but if its perfect it is, but it cant be, but it still is


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coolarmando is not online. coolarmando
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01 Sep 2016 02:10 PM
@meta

that would mean that the illusion is imperfect, you cant feel the table

if an illusion is PERFECT you cant differentiate it from something real

but is it still an illusion or is it something real


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metaknight200 is not online. metaknight200
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01 Sep 2016 02:11 PM
okay if i kill myself and reality keeps going then it wasn't an illusion because i wasn't just perceiving that reality exists


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coolarmando is not online. coolarmando
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01 Sep 2016 02:12 PM
thats really dark but yes i suppose

but how can you tell


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metaknight200 is not online. metaknight200
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01 Sep 2016 02:14 PM
i wouldn't but everybody else would

besides if reality didn't exist i'd still live and die so there'd be no real reason to care about something like that


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01 Sep 2016 02:15 PM
my mind is imploding from so many things


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