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Re: Legion is going to save World of Warcraft

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KeI_Thuzad is not online. KeI_Thuzad
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28 Aug 2016 03:12 PM
-Best pre-launch event in WoW history
-7.1 patch content already has more updates than all of Warlords of Draenor combined
-Classes are finally somewhat balanced
-You get exp for tagging mobs now
-This expansion isn't about Green Jesus and Orcs
-Artifact weapons

Tell me C&G, why haven't you pre-purchased Legion and subscribed to the best MMORPG of all time?


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BuIky is not online. BuIky
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28 Aug 2016 03:13 PM
I prepurchased it but waiting for 7.1 to renew sub

Pretty hyped gonna start fresh
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Kazoko is not online. Kazoko
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28 Aug 2016 03:13 PM
Because my pic is a potatoe that's why
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KeI_Thuzad is not online. KeI_Thuzad
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28 Aug 2016 03:14 PM
Honestly you should resub just for the pre-launch invasion event. With Demon Invasions it's literally the fastest way to level in WoW history, I got 3 alts to level 100 this week lmao


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AgentVanBur is not online. AgentVanBur
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28 Aug 2016 03:20 PM
It's funny that you listed Artifact Weapons as a reason
One of the many reasons player counts plummeted is because they removed an integral component of what made WoW an mmoRPG
Getting epic or legendary weapons used to be an achievement on it's own, nowadays however Blizzard caters to the casual players who don't want to invest the time and effort required for those then achievements
Artifact Weapons are another step back in that area, everyone will run around with their super duper awesome looking weapon, oh wait, only that it won't look super duper awesome when everyone runs around with the same damn thing


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BuIky is not online. BuIky
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28 Aug 2016 03:21 PM
"Honestly you should resub just for the pre-launch invasion event. With Demon Invasions it's literally the fastest way to level in WoW history, I got 3 alts to level 100 this week lmao"

I don't support the entire thing im against

im against the fast leveling lol hate it wish it was slowed down

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KeI_Thuzad is not online. KeI_Thuzad
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28 Aug 2016 03:21 PM
Artifact weapons are progression based, how "super cool xd" it looks reflects how much time you put into the game. So no, not everybody will be running around with a maxed out doomhammer. And seeing as there's over 100+ artifact weapons it won't really be a problem.


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BuIky is not online. BuIky
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28 Aug 2016 03:22 PM
"Artifact Weapons are another step back in that area, everyone will run around with their super duper awesome looking weapon, oh wait, only that it won't look super duper awesome when everyone runs around with the same damn thing"

You have no clue how the artifact system works do you

It will take a long time to fully level your artifact weapon

we're talking legendary quest line time
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AgentVanBur is not online. AgentVanBur
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28 Aug 2016 03:25 PM
Sorry but you are missing the point, you are part of the (sadly) big audience that led to hardcore WoW being disassembled into the empty husk it is nowadays


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BuIky is not online. BuIky
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28 Aug 2016 03:25 PM
And actually the removal of legendary weapons was not a huge reason for sub counts falling

Really a smaller one at that

Sub counts plummeted because the game became less social it was basically a dulled version of dark souls at a point in WOD
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KeI_Thuzad is not online. KeI_Thuzad
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28 Aug 2016 03:26 PM
"I don't support the entire thing im against

im against the fast leveling lol hate it wish it was slowed down "

fair point, I think it's just so that everyone can experience all the legendary class questlines at endgame that even your hardcore players would have trouble experiencing


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BuIky is not online. BuIky
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28 Aug 2016 03:26 PM
"Sorry but you are missing the point, you are part of the (sadly) big audience that led to hardcore WoW being disassembled into the empty husk it is nowadays"

I'm sorry you know nothing of why sub counts fell and really have no clue on what is best for wow

Please head back to /r/WoWNostalgia/ and cry with the rest of your vanilla babies
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energeticpizza is not online. energeticpizza
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28 Aug 2016 03:27 PM
i am subscribed loser111 and i did pre-order legion dude im so pumped for it lmao
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KeI_Thuzad is not online. KeI_Thuzad
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28 Aug 2016 03:28 PM
"Sorry but you are missing the point, you are part of the (sadly) big audience that led to hardcore WoW being disassembled into the empty husk it is nowadays"

Sub count went down hardcore because there were actually no endgame updates at the end of expansions. Cata/MoP/WoD all had at the least 6 months without any actual game updates which forced subscribers to either A) Do the final raid continuously for 6 months or B) Unsubscribe. It has nothing to do with the casualization of the game since there's 4 different raid tiers that panders to literally every type of player.


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BuIky is not online. BuIky
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28 Aug 2016 03:29 PM
I pre ordered legion the day they announced it lmao

admittedly i got it so early so i could level boost a druid lol
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Treeecow is not online. Treeecow
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28 Aug 2016 03:30 PM
i'm pretty new to WoW so please explain

what are all these "expansion packs" that you have to preorder and everything?

why do you have to subscribe to the game AND buy all the DLCs?

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BuIky is not online. BuIky
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28 Aug 2016 03:31 PM
"i'm pretty new to WoW so please explain

what are all these "expansion packs" that you have to preorder and everything?

why do you have to subscribe to the game AND buy all the DLCs?"

Hello my friend, I'd like you to meet my friends Blizzard Gaming, they're incredibly rich. Ever wonder why?
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Treeecow is not online. Treeecow
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28 Aug 2016 03:33 PM
are you kidding me you have to subscribe just to get the original content and then buy DLCs to get the new areas?

smh i wanted to get into WoW but my wallet is not liking it
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KeI_Thuzad is not online. KeI_Thuzad
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28 Aug 2016 03:33 PM
"i'm pretty new to WoW so please explain

what are all these "expansion packs" that you have to preorder and everything?

why do you have to subscribe to the game AND buy all the DLCs?"

Essentially, expansion packs are sequels to the game. Like you hit max level in Vanilla WoW and got all the endgame gear, so Blizzard releases a new Expansion Pack, "The Burning Crusade" which increases the max level, adds new dungeons/raids/items to the game and adds completely new zones for you to level through as well as just giving the game quality of life updates. And from now on you don't have to buy all the DLC's to be up to date. Just buy Legion and you get access to all the old DLC's afaik. And subscription is for the regular game updates you get during the new expansion such as new raids/dungeons tc.


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BuIky is not online. BuIky
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28 Aug 2016 03:34 PM
"are you kidding me you have to subscribe just to get the original content and then buy DLCs to get the new areas?"

You don't have to buy every one indivually

with just a subscription you get every xpack except the current one so you can level all the way until you're at the new xpac

THen if you want to take the game seriously just buy the new xpac lol
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BuIky is not online. BuIky
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28 Aug 2016 03:35 PM
If you buy legion you'll get every previous xpac
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AgentVanBur is not online. AgentVanBur
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28 Aug 2016 03:38 PM
Sub counts fell because:
- Content droughts
- Simplifying of game mechanics aka casualisation
- Reducing the MMO factor by allowing players to essentially play singleplayer
- Removing of RPG traditional mechanics that gave the game more depth even if that is debatable
- Leveling gear for alts leading to new players to the game being dominated in both PvE and PvP
- Removal of important PvP mechanics
- Forced time limited grinds aka dailies and legendary quest lines (literally limiting how fast you can progress, turning away hardcore players)
- Real money store allowing the purchase of ridiculous looking things that deflate the whole special thing

Maybe more but those are the ones I can think off the top of my head
I raided in vanilla, BC, WotLK, Cataclysm, and lastly MoP
I was a high rated arena player, and generally avid PvPer

If you think I'm a crybaby that only got to experience vanilla you are terribly wrong I'm afraid and if you think my opinion is unique even more so


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Treeecow is not online. Treeecow
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28 Aug 2016 03:39 PM
okay another question...

apparently realms are pretty important in WoW, yes? like when i first made my player i just picked a random realm that was low population but i've heard that in other realms you can fight other players or something?
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KeI_Thuzad is not online. KeI_Thuzad
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28 Aug 2016 03:39 PM
"Sub counts fell because:
- Content droughts
- Simplifying of game mechanics aka casualisation
- Reducing the MMO factor by allowing players to essentially play singleplayer
- Removing of RPG traditional mechanics that gave the game more depth even if that is debatable
- Leveling gear for alts leading to new players to the game being dominated in both PvE and PvP
- Removal of important PvP mechanics
- Forced time limited grinds aka dailies and legendary quest lines (literally limiting how fast you can progress, turning away hardcore players)
- Real money store allowing the purchase of ridiculous looking things that deflate the whole special thing
"

The only legitimate reason there is content droughts lmao, everything else is extremely negligible.


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KeI_Thuzad is not online. KeI_Thuzad
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28 Aug 2016 03:41 PM
"apparently realms are pretty important in WoW, yes? like when i first made my player i just picked a random realm that was low population but i've heard that in other realms you can fight other players or something?"

If you pick a low pop realm it really takes away from the whole experience as there's hardly any people you'll run into. You should probably pick a high/full realm with PvP enabled. This means A) You'll see lots of people everywhere and B) If you see an alliance nerd you can kill him


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