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Re: the real reason that SFing is bad

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TheShadowMessage is not online. TheShadowMessage
Joined: 21 Sep 2012
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24 Aug 2016 02:14 AM
at its core, SFing is poorly designed

imagine that there are two kids and a table.
you play by slapping your hand on the table, and by retracting it.
if you slap the other person's hand, you win.

what is the winning strategy? wait for the other person to make a move.
of course, if your opponent is worth their salt, that's their strategy too. so might as well do a bunch of fake outs and get nowhere.
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Laedere is online. Laedere
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24 Aug 2016 02:15 AM
or you can throw your sword and impale them and win instantly


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SnoopDogg is not online. SnoopDogg
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24 Aug 2016 02:16 AM
i enjoy it :/


sauce
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KazzKali is not online. KazzKali
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24 Aug 2016 02:22 AM
Said it like a true personwhonevergaveswordfightingachanceandsucksatit!

Good job son


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TheShadowMessage is not online. TheShadowMessage
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24 Aug 2016 11:33 AM
ah yes the classic
"you don't like it cause you're bad at it"

obviously you don't know how much experience I have, so your accusation amounts to nothing. if you insist that you do know, then I insist that you're wrong. at which point it's your word against mine because neither of us has evidence.
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Frostaxius is not online. Frostaxius
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24 Aug 2016 11:36 AM
agreed

but swords can be fun


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Pandaros is not online. Pandaros
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24 Aug 2016 11:37 AM
That slapping game is fun. I'm a swordfighter, I swordfight cause I ignore other people's opinions about how it's bad.
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radzach97 is not online. radzach97
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24 Aug 2016 11:38 AM
It can still be fun
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Pectrial is not online. Pectrial
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24 Aug 2016 11:39 AM
This argument is here 5 times a month
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Auzric is not online. Auzric
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24 Aug 2016 11:48 AM
As someone who has years of experience leading SF clans, the downsides are the lack of diversity in the genre and the obnoxious community. Allow me to explain:

- MANY sword fighting clan owners are very straight forward people. They want fighting, practicing in its classic aspects and not much more. This is a major turnoff for people who need diversity and despise routinely activities, but can be pleasant for others.

- The community is composed of two different types of clans: There are those who want to gather all the best-known, strongest fighters in the community and fight everyone else, and those who want to teach their OWN how to fight properly and fight like-minded and equally skilled clans.

Those who gather all the best are what killed sword fighting. They left no room for diversity, allowed very few new people to step in and take part. Not to mention the arrogance of many of these people, but that's in all genres I'm guessing.



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impperial is not online. impperial
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24 Aug 2016 11:52 AM
gun fighting isnt that much better on roblox tbh

jump and shoot and hope ur aim is better than the others

obviously its a lot more strategy just saying roblox is bad
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Auzric is not online. Auzric
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24 Aug 2016 11:54 AM
It's up to the community to diversify all fighting genres really. I'm sure we can come up with more skill-based weapons in the future.
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robepriority is not online. robepriority
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24 Aug 2016 11:58 AM
LocalDamage makes everything lag based
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Lasoor is not online. Lasoor
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24 Aug 2016 12:03 PM
You don't understand sword fighting at all lol.


"what is the winning strategy? wait for the other person to make a move."

Only crappy sword fighters are unable to be offensive.
I can am primarily offensive as a "disrespect" strategy to just show people how bad they are and that being defensive doesn't make you win no matter how good you are because my way of fighting counters everything.


Good and bad is a matter of opinion. My opinion is that I am good and you are bad
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LIGHTING679 is not online. LIGHTING679
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24 Aug 2016 12:04 PM
All forms of fighting on this website are unrealistic and crappy
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Lasoor is not online. Lasoor
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24 Aug 2016 12:06 PM
It's not about realism. It's a game and sword fighting on ROBLOX is entirely its own thing that people enjoy. Just because you dislike it doesn't mean it's bad, it just means you personally shouldn't do it.


Good and bad is a matter of opinion. My opinion is that I am good and you are bad
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GGGGG14 is not online. GGGGG14
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24 Aug 2016 12:10 PM
Sword fighting is actually probably more complex than gun fighting which uses mathematical operations to fire rays using raycasting.

At least in sword fighting you have to take into account the actualy physics of roblox & the animations while in most C&G guns you fire and hit your target that you clicked.
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TheShadowMessage is not online. TheShadowMessage
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24 Aug 2016 01:17 PM
"Only crappy sword fighters are unable to be offensive."

talking about high level play here. of course it's possible to use rushing if the other person doesn't know what they're doing. like you yourself said, it's a disrespect strategy you can use against bad players.

but against competent players like these guys
https://www.roblox.com/groups/group.aspx?gid=2797377
that's not going to work
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TimeBurnz is not online. TimeBurnz
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24 Aug 2016 01:18 PM
OP is completely right about sfing
but its just fun
:P


|+1550 posts|yeet yeet|Devin|
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Xienthius is not online. Xienthius
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24 Aug 2016 01:25 PM
I used to be a pretty heavy Defensive sword fighter when I was in Sword clans, and usually, most Offensive fighters always messed up with being patient. The ones I have fought anyways.

But in my eyes, swords are more for the fun of stabbing computerised block people.. Not really for seriousness...
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Lasoor is not online. Lasoor
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24 Aug 2016 01:28 PM
"it's a disrespect strategy you can use against bad players"

Um no, that's not completely what I said. I use it against top level players, not just bad players. Because top end people are idiots and don't expect people to fight them they way I do. I counter every movement they make and use their defensive strategy against them by letting them have the first strike in a way where they always miss.


Good and bad is a matter of opinion. My opinion is that I am good and you are bad
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Auzric is not online. Auzric
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24 Aug 2016 01:29 PM
"most Offensive fighters always messed up with being patient. "

Well said.
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Lasoor is not online. Lasoor
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24 Aug 2016 01:32 PM
Patience is only necessary if you don't know how to approach.
If you're consistently hitting at the guy and know what you're doing then patience becomes irrelevant in deciding who wins. It becomes more about outsmarting your opponent so they open themselves up for attack.


Good and bad is a matter of opinion. My opinion is that I am good and you are bad
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Auzric is not online. Auzric
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24 Aug 2016 01:35 PM
But if you aren't certain about your next move or unsure how to approach your opponent, patience is vital.
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Lasoor is not online. Lasoor
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24 Aug 2016 01:38 PM
I've been SFing so long that it has become so much like an "instinct" that I don't even have to pay attention while I do it yet can easily win. 1v1s are harder and do require my attention and when I pay attention I win at least 90% of the time. FFAs though are where I shine. I love FFAs because I can get 20+ kills before someone finally manages to kill me. Thing is people probably focus on one guy at a time, what I do is I zone out and in mean time I'm jumping around killing everyone around me like they're nothing just using the techniques I'm used to.

Once you're truly good at sword fighting it starts being as easy as breathing which is really weird.


Good and bad is a matter of opinion. My opinion is that I am good and you are bad
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