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Re: [LVCC] Chamber of Commerce Establishment Act

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AcidRaps is not online. AcidRaps
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24 Aug 2016 11:09 AM
https://twitter.com/AcidRapsUSA/status/768480199042142208

Doing it on a forum makes it censored. Proof: https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=196918239

Vote below.
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KnowDaGame is not online. KnowDaGame
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24 Aug 2016 11:21 AM
Aye.


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24 Aug 2016 11:24 AM
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Rare_Dev is not online. Rare_Dev
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24 Aug 2016 11:31 AM
aye


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MarkEmblox is not online. MarkEmblox
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24 Aug 2016 11:39 AM
If the LVCC tried to pass this, RIP LVCC 2015-2016. You're not a legislative branch and such action is treacherous against the US. Comply or consequences will occur.
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Rare_Dev is not online. Rare_Dev
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24 Aug 2016 11:48 AM
We act as the legislative branch of Las Vegas mark


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AcidRaps is not online. AcidRaps
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24 Aug 2016 11:50 AM
Is that a threat, Mark?
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Aluoss is not online. Aluoss
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24 Aug 2016 11:57 AM
Aye


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Bakerley is not online. Bakerley
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24 Aug 2016 12:12 PM
@AcidRaps it is indeed. And he's quite right, you know. You can either retract this illegal proposal or I'll make you.
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Kolibob is not online. Kolibob
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24 Aug 2016 12:12 PM
This vote is hereby stopped. You cannot do such things.
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KingLukassie is not online. KingLukassie
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24 Aug 2016 12:13 PM
Aye

@mark threatening public officials much?

I can sue u rn if I feel like
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AcidRaps is not online. AcidRaps
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24 Aug 2016 12:21 PM
Excuse me, "law experts"? ""ARTICLE I OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION
SECTION 1. All legislative powers, with the exception of development work that requires the developers or founder, shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives."


"with the exception of development work that requires the developers or founder"

This bill establishes a team. Voting is hereby not stopped, Koli.
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Aluos is not online. Aluos
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24 Aug 2016 05:01 PM
veto


Signed, Aluos, Mayor of Las Vegas
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AcidRaps is not online. AcidRaps
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24 Aug 2016 05:26 PM
----------- Veto Override -----------
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24 Aug 2016 05:33 PM
aye


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Rylon_Jackson is not online. Rylon_Jackson
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24 Aug 2016 05:50 PM
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Owen_BuildsAWall is not online. Owen_BuildsAWall
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24 Aug 2016 07:28 PM
1. lvcc cant veto override. you guys havent established that and acid is incompetent for trying to "override" something that currently has no legal basis in lvcc
2. this bill is horribly written. who even wrote this? did you even proofread what you were reading?
"An executive director’s term will last the length of the Las Vegas Mayor’s term." Which mayor? An executive director can easily argue, "The mayor's term hasn't ended." when being removed. But of course, lvcc is full of idiots that make rulings by feeling, and not by law.
"The executive director will be authorized to hire a staff of appropriate size." What is that supposed to mean? Jesus christ that's the worst wording you could ever have.
"The executive director will be authorized to approve or decline a private business's entry request with reasoning."
Alright, that's fine.
"If the board of directors do not agree with a decision made by the executive director on the topic of accepting or declining a business, then they may overrule the decision with a majority vote."
... so he can decline it again?
"No private business owner or executive, at the time of his leadership, shall be executive director of the C##########can I call myself founder then become executive director of C######"Executive director will be a public office."
What is a public office? That's not defined in the bill and while writing this I realized you defined nothing.
"The Co###ill be under the city government."
?? You don't have the power to do this. Establishing a department is a purely legislative power. What are you trying to acheive with this? Getting LV####n#########ol.
" Not more than 2 months after the passing of this bill shall the group for it be created. Not more than 3 months after the passing of this bill shall the mayor nominate an executive director."
How are you going to enforce that? Whoever wrote this is something else. This is a purely asinine bill and it's very aparent that it was made by someone with no knowledge of the legislative system.

This is a horrible bill. Whoever wrote this is just APPEALING to the pedants. This bill gives you soo many legal arguments that I can't even count all of them on my finger. Shame on you for making such an ambiguous, asinine heap of garbage. I hope ashein gets rid of people like you, Acid.

By the way, I seriously doubt you're going to a math camp because that requires you to be able to logically think.
Idiot.
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AcidRaps is not online. AcidRaps
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24 Aug 2016 08:40 PM
@owen i already went to a math camp stupid. also u cant read
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Owen_BuildsAWall is not online. Owen_BuildsAWall
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25 Aug 2016 09:34 AM
@acid so instead of addressing all my points, you respond with an attack on my character? if you're going to insult me, atleast ####### what I'm saying you idiot. you're the single dumbest person in ##### you know that? this bill looks like it was written by a toddler. ###### # ######## to anyone in the legislative branch with this horrible balderdash. this bill is an ambiguous mess & leaves too much room for argument. btw I should have said, "you went to math camp." regardless, the meaning stays the same, and you should have known what I was insinuating with the comment. idiot
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Owen_BuildsAWall is not online. Owen_BuildsAWall
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25 Aug 2016 09:35 AM
what is with community sift? jesus christ

1st hashtag : adress
2nd hashtag: las vegas city council
3rd, 4th and 5th hastag you are a disgrace



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AcidRaps is not online. AcidRaps
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25 Aug 2016 12:18 PM
I ADDRESSED all the points by saying you can't read.
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AcidRaps is not online. AcidRaps
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25 Aug 2016 12:19 PM
"Any Mayoral veto can be overrided with a 2/3rds vote by the council. Effective 03/7/2016 7:00 P.M. EST." cite: Las Vegas City Council Trello in List Rules
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AcidRaps is not online. AcidRaps
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25 Aug 2016 12:21 PM
Also the valid points of the proof reading are from the Judicial Branch making me change the bill a ton. So, I apologize about that.
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AcidRaps is not online. AcidRaps
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25 Aug 2016 12:28 PM
1. lvcc cant veto override. you guys havent established that and acid is incompetent for trying to "override" something that currently has no legal basis in lvcc

1. Yes, they can. Read the rules on the LVCC trello.

2. this bill is horribly written. who even wrote this? did you even proofread what you were reading?
"An executive director’s term will last the length of the Las Vegas Mayor’s term." Which mayor? An executive director can easily argue, "The mayor's term hasn't ended." when being removed. But of course, lvcc is full of idiots that make rulings by feeling, and not by law.

It literally means the term of the Mayor who nominated him. Then in the next point it clarifies that if the mayor resigns, then that executive director's term is over.

"The executive director will be authorized to hire a staff of appropriate size." What is that supposed to mean? Jesus christ that's the worst wording you could ever have.

A staff of a size that is appropriate. (Not too big, not too small.)

"The executive director will be authorized to approve or decline a private business's entry request with reasoning."
Alright, that's fine.

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"If the board of directors do not agree with a decision made by the executive director on the topic of accepting or declining a business, then they may overrule the decision with a majority vote."
... so he can decline it again?

No, the Executive Director is authorized to accept/decline businesses, not overrides.

"No private business owner or executive, at the time of his leadership, shall be executive director of the C##########can I call myself founder then become executive director of C######"

If you are a high ranking official in an approved business, then you may not be nominated for Executive Director.

Executive director will be a public office."
What is a public office? That's not defined in the bill and while writing this I realized you defined nothing.

It is defined by the courts.

"The Co###ill be under the city government."
?? You don't have the power to do this. Establishing a department is a purely legislative power. What are you trying to acheive with this? Getting LV####n#########ol.

Obviously I do. Two out of three FJs have said I can as long as it does not conflict with other legislation.

" Not more than 2 months after the passing of this bill shall the group for it be created. Not more than 3 months after the passing of this bill shall the mayor nominate an executive director."
How are you going to enforce that? Whoever wrote this is something else. This is a purely asinine bill and it's very aparent that it was made by someone with no knowledge of the legislative system.

That is something used in irl bills. Cite: S. 2196 (112th): Congressional Health Care for Seniors Act of 2012
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Owen_BuildsAWall is not online. Owen_BuildsAWall
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25 Aug 2016 05:45 PM
"Yes, they can. Read the rules on the LVCC trello."
My mistake. I overlooked it when making this.
"It literally means the term of the Mayor who nominated him. Then in the next point it clarifies that if the mayor resigns, then that executive director's term is over."
???? Did you not read my argument? That bullet is too ambiguous. You didn't say, "Incumbent" mayor, you said the Las Vegas Mayor. Do you not understand the legitimate legal claim that can be made here? Jeez dude, you're dense.
"A staff of a size that is appropriate. (Not too big, not too small.)"
My big is different from your big. My small is different from your small. That's why you don't use adjectives and not define them, such as "appropriate."
"No, the Executive Director is authorized to accept/decline businesses, not overrides."
Good strawman there, Acid. You didn't say in the override section, "The Executive Director can not veto a business that was overrided." When you say that they can override things, then the Executive Director can veto things you create a slippery slope.
"If you are a high ranking official in an approved business, then you may not be nominated for Executive Director"
You didn't say that. Specify stuff like that next time you make a bill.
"It is defined by the courts."
Yeah, but what IO'm saying is YOU need to establish it. Sorry bud, but you can't make aditions to the constitution like that. Define a public office at a city wide level and you won't create an unconstitutional bill.
"Obviously I do. Two out of three FJs have said I can as long as it does not conflict with other legislation."
The federal judges on this came are under 18, have never taken a law course and are basically pretty new to interpreting law. If you think they are a valid source when making things like this, then you're truly mistaken. Get in contact with Synapsic, KOTwarrior or MrShibe. They are the only people in nUSA that can give legal advice IMO. Anyways, the fact here is that you don't have any legislative power. You say that 2 out of 3 FJs say you do? Well, barkely, Kolibob and our Preisdent say you don't. Does that suddenly make me right?
"That is something used in irl bills. Cite: S. 2196 (112th): Congressional Health Care for Seniors Act of 2012"
Strawman. Y ou seriously need to stop doing that when arguing. That is an irrelevant claim. I asked, "How will you enforce it?" For you to post your motions and bills that give you power to do so. You can't make people AOS, you can't hand out Injunctions, you can't force Paul to make it. That's what I was asking.

lol
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