Xenolio
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| 20 Aug 2016 02:23 PM |
AssistedKill and I agreed for this war to be a fun one. The first battle starts and the enemy team is already complaining.
I have no clue why because Assisted scouted our base multiple times before this raid. I even let him test the guns, and he was satisfied.
Now, he says we have "Direct" access to the base. False. The enemy team can lock our side gate, and we can no longer get through that way. The main way we get out of our base is the waterfall exit.
We have mountain access, but so do they. It's right at their spawn. They have 2 ways into our base, just like us.
They also said we have "Snipers, Shotguns and LMGS"... Yes, but the sniper is very hard to use. The only gun/guns we really use is the GULA, and the JANUS. Those guns can be unlocked at a very low level.
The armory that they call "OP" can easily be locked down if they capture the base.
-I can say, not a single gun of ours one shot kills. If you want proof, come into the game and test each one.
-The sniper is a 2 shot kill, and I'm pretty sure it's hard to kill someone with it when everyone is hopping around. Plus, most of our members aren't even a high enough level to get it.
The only difference between our guns and theirs, is our guns don't do 5 damage per shot.
Both sides have the same guns at the spawn. EXACT same. The other guns are just sitting at the HQ if anyone wants to grab them. And half the time no one gets them because they are weaker than the starter guns.
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Xenolio
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| 20 Aug 2016 02:33 PM |
Other groups raided us and they had no problem locking our side gate.
Russian Army and VAC/VAK raided and they didn't complain about any weapons.
If the raiders are winning, they never complain.
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| 20 Aug 2016 02:41 PM |
The base is fair....All you need to do is just level up which is pretty easy to get the Semi-Sniper, Which is also unlocked at level 1.Anyways if you do lose a raid what the matter?It doesn't go to the raid win and if YOU won every single raid what the point of having a fun war if you win everytime.
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Xenolio
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| 20 Aug 2016 02:44 PM |
We didn't win every single time...
Russian Army and VAC/VAK had no issue winning.
We lost to those clans at our home base.
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Xenolio
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| 20 Aug 2016 02:47 PM |
"I have no clue why because Assisted scouted our base multiple times before this raid. I even let him test the guns, and he was satisfied. "
You let me scout to a limited extent. You let me test the starter guns, not any of the OP guns you guys just came out with.
"Now, he says we have "Direct" access to the base. False. The enemy team can lock our side gate, and we can no longer get through that way. The main way we get out of our base is the waterfall exit."
You have a tunnel right beside the terminal building, then maybe a 5-10 second walk? 1 minute advantage against the raiders. And it's pretty much impossibly to spawn trap when you have the OP guns, and medkit's.
"We have mountain access, but so do they. It's right at their spawn. They have 2 ways into our base, just like us."
You get a free way on mountains, however we need crystals or something like that, we cant get a god damn kill when your guns are too OP.
"They also said we have "Snipers, Shotguns and LMGS"... Yes, but the sniper is very hard to use. The only gun/guns we really use is the GULA, and the JANUS. Those guns can be unlocked at a very low level."
No, half of your soldiers were using the snipers and shotguns. And you said you're using the GULA and JANUS, in the war terms it said "everyone gets the same starter gun", but now you're saying we get some bad gun and you're getting GULA and JANUS? I could claim an auto win just from that statement lmao.
"The sniper is a 2 shot kill, and I'm pretty sure it's hard to kill someone with it when everyone is hopping around. Plus, most of our members aren't even a high enough level to get it."
Yet half of your players were using it?
"The only difference between our guns and theirs, is our guns don't do 5 damage per shot. "
Then you've rigged your fort up for the war, which is against violations once again.
"Both sides have the same guns at the spawn. EXACT same. The other guns are just sitting at the HQ if anyone wants to grab them. And half the time no one gets them because they are weaker than the starter guns."
The starter does about 5 damage for us, the ones at armory does about 30. Your starter guns do about 9, not fair eh?
Just by looking at all the information I've gathered, I can easily pull out of this war claiming it as a win because you've unfairly rigged your fort without my consent, you've broken the "stater gun" rule, two rule violations already broken. Not to mention you've kept almost all of these a secret from me :^).
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| 20 Aug 2016 02:49 PM |
@Xenolio I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to assist.
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Xenolio
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| 20 Aug 2016 02:52 PM |
The Lux (Sniper) is bad, none of my members were using it that defense. Very hard to use, and it takes a while to reload after each shot.
Ira (Shotgun)... You'll get destroyed if you try to use it against the starter weapons.
Superbia (LMG)- Does less damage than the starter weapons and it shoots slower...
'OP' weapons...
That is an easy excuse for anyone to use.
If you're asking us to take out the mini-armory inside the building. We'll be glad to... But what will be the next excuse?
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| 20 Aug 2016 02:55 PM |
"The Lux (Sniper) is bad, none of my members were using it that defense. Very hard to use, and it takes a while to reload after each shot."
You've proven my point.
"Ira (Shotgun)... You'll get destroyed if you try to use it against the starter weapons."
Are you sure about that? Didn't seem like it.
"Superbia (LMG)- Does less damage than the starter weapons and it shoots slower.."
I didn't even know there was an LMG? Another gun I wasn't told about?
"That is an easy excuse for anyone to use.
If you're asking us to take out the mini-armory inside the building. We'll be glad to... But what will be the next excuse?"
I love how you call it an excuse, when you continuously rely on the perks you're over powerlessly given in order to win. Make 1 gun, only able to obtain one gun, remove medkits, remove any OP gun, and then I'll be able to maybe consider your fort as fair.
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| 20 Aug 2016 02:57 PM |
Or just easily give my members access to everything you have access to and we'll be good.
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Xenolio
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| 20 Aug 2016 03:03 PM |
The main guns we use: GULA and the JANUS... Two guns that your members probably have unlocked. Low level unlock.
-How about we give you the 'OP' Sniper, Shotgun, and LMG along with the medkits?
And we get the starter guns?
Then you'll see how 'OP' they are :]
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| 20 Aug 2016 03:17 PM |
And the Gula and Janus, because they're still OP and automatically given at the start of the raid, along the shotgun, sniper, and LMG.
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Xenolio
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| 20 Aug 2016 04:14 PM |
We will work things out, but you have the GULA and JANUS at the spawn too.
They are in a giver inside the shed.
We don't spawn with them in our inventory.
Since defenses don't count for points, then we won't gain anything from defending successfully.
You'll just keep raiding and you'll unlock GULA and JANUS very quickly.
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SnoopDogg
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| 20 Aug 2016 04:16 PM |
what do you expect from a copied group with a leader who doesn't know what he's doing? lol.
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Xenolio
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| 20 Aug 2016 04:18 PM |
I'll just reply on this forum. I am not trying to flame at all.
But he said we "Hid" other guns from him.
Why would we "hide" guns next to the control point and leave them in plain sight...
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| 20 Aug 2016 04:19 PM |
@Snoop Oh my god, I've never been called a bad leader before:( Our group has never been called copied before :(.
@Xenolio because I was never told about that gun when I was asking about the weapons.
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| 20 Aug 2016 04:20 PM |
unless cyan legion updated there base for some op stuff, then this is def false
i defended for cl when the russian group raided and we got stomped even though they were noobs
the base is really unfair for defenders idk how u can lose at it
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Xenolio
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| 20 Aug 2016 04:21 PM |
@Assisted.
True, I didn't show them to you.
But they are in plain sight... If we wanted to hide them from raiders, why would we put them next to the objective???
Why wouldn't we just put them in our spawn? I mean, no one can get into our spawn, so why not there?
Cause we don't want to hide things.
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SnoopDogg
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| 20 Aug 2016 04:23 PM |
xenolio he just wants that w. he tried kicking bear without warning just because reavers was losing. he will do the same to you, watch.
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| 20 Aug 2016 04:25 PM |
@Xenolio wellimean I didn't really pay attention to our spawn?
@SnoopDogg we all know they were spawn killing and I told you to give them a warning. We all know;). But then again, if you have any complaints on the way we function feel free to contact me!
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Xenolio
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| 20 Aug 2016 04:25 PM |
@Get
Thank you,
Teknu (Our base) is very raider sided.
Why? Because most groups in the clan world complain about everything. We don't want to unbalance our base.
I'm not talking to you Assistedkill, I'm saying in general.
And the top excuses for losing a raid consist of:
1. You have OP weapons
2. Admin Abuse
3. Unfair base
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SnoopDogg
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| 20 Aug 2016 04:27 PM |
you didn't tell anyone to give a warning lmfao. you're such an idiot. keep stuttering, that'll be your excuse on why your information doesn't come out clearly, okay bud?
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| 20 Aug 2016 04:29 PM |
"Give them a warning, if they continue it; kick or ban them" SnoopDogg; "THEY SPAWN KILLING EIVASFI" "Then ban them"
Is stuttering, leadership, and the group being copied your only way to get against me? Like please, we all know I can't help stutter, please move on from it.
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SnoopDogg
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| 20 Aug 2016 04:31 PM |
is that really how it went down in your head kid? lmao im done. that's too funny. keep telling yourself that. you couldn't even hold connection to the game with that magic jack connection of yours.
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