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Re: to ppl using freedom of speech as an excuse 2 harass others

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Sovannara is not online. Sovannara
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16 Aug 2016 10:10 PM
1. roblox is a private business, not a government
2. freedom of speech does not protect your opinions from being criticized
3. using it as an excuse to spew hate speech is a bastardization of free speech
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TheJudasKiss is not online. TheJudasKiss
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16 Aug 2016 10:14 PM
Lol

Yeah I hate it when people try to fancy themselves as lawyers and say "muh first amendment", when they don't even realize that the sign up button is basically a legal agreement

I mean throwing your opinion out there is fine, criticising someone is fine, but there's a hard line between being respectful and being completely abusive
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Sovannara is not online. Sovannara
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16 Aug 2016 10:30 PM
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Allergenics is not online. Allergenics
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16 Aug 2016 10:34 PM
3. using it as an excuse to spew hate speech is a bastardization of free speech

the right to express any opinions without censorship or restraint.

"any"


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Sovannara is not online. Sovannara
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16 Aug 2016 10:49 PM
"the right to express any opinions without censorship or restraint.

"any""

you forgot "from the government"
you are not free from being kicked off this website for saying hate speech or from being criticized by someone who disagrees with you
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Allergenics is not online. Allergenics
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16 Aug 2016 11:19 PM
i actually didn't forget from the government

here's the definition i got from google:

free·dom of speech
noun
the right to express any opinions without censorship or restraint.

i'm not saying you aren't right about being kicked off of this website for saying hate speech


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Sovannara is not online. Sovannara
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16 Aug 2016 11:23 PM
a definition from a dictionary doesnt tell you everything there is to know about a topic. you can look up car in the dictionary but that wont tell you how to repair your car when it breaks down
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ImGloomy is not online. ImGloomy
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16 Aug 2016 11:24 PM
support


and please don't mistake me as depressed
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RilpoXBL is not online. RilpoXBL
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16 Aug 2016 11:24 PM
i won't even bother with this one
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CatSalmon is not online. CatSalmon
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16 Aug 2016 11:27 PM
"lmao kys nerd dweebus lol"
"dude thats rude"
"lmao wtf kidd its free speech bruh hhXD"


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mattberns is not online. mattberns
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16 Aug 2016 11:29 PM
Yep. There is a fine line between freedom of speech, and abusing it. If I share my opinions, that's free speech. If I tell someone that their opinion stinks, and that it will never happen, that's abusing free speech.
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PabloGaviriaEscobar is not online. PabloGaviriaEscobar
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16 Aug 2016 11:30 PM
You are welcome to your opinions and to disagree with one another but do not attack (flame) or insult others for any reason
If you are a member of a religious or political group, ROBLOX is not the place to post about your political views or religious ideals

thats in Rules of conduct


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Sovannara is not online. Sovannara
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16 Aug 2016 11:30 PM
"lmao kys nerd dweebus lol"
"dude thats rude"
"lmao wtf kidd its free speech bruh hhXD" [2]
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TeddGames101 is not online. TeddGames101
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16 Aug 2016 11:32 PM
Basically as long as you express yourself without putting someone in danger it is "ok" but calling someone a scrub is not really a suing but being a butthead.
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Sovannara is not online. Sovannara
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16 Aug 2016 11:33 PM
@pablo what did you say on the other thread
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TeddGames101 is not online. TeddGames101
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16 Aug 2016 11:33 PM
abusing*
Though it really depends on the individuals mental state in the situation.
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Allergenics is not online. Allergenics
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16 Aug 2016 11:34 PM
@sov

that's because the defintion of a car is different from how to fix a car

if i looked up "human" and it told me the definition of a human, the definition doesn't need to include all of the ways to cure diseases humans have


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Sovannara is not online. Sovannara
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16 Aug 2016 11:34 PM
you do not know everything about freedom of speech by just looking at a dictionary definition of it is what i was saying
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FireFang728 is not online. FireFang728
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16 Aug 2016 11:36 PM
freedom of speech isnt an excuse and you cant say otherwise!!!


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TeddGames101 is not online. TeddGames101
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16 Aug 2016 11:36 PM
Dictionaries usually just define a word, generally for universal comprehension, not necessarily specifying its roots and actual meaning.
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Allergenics is not online. Allergenics
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16 Aug 2016 11:38 PM
i'm not disagreeing that you can be kicked off of this website for using freedom of speech in a bad way

nor am i saying that just because you have the right to freedom of speech you're not open to criticism

but if i say "i think all (insert minority group here) are (insert hateful comment here)" then it's still freedom of speech because i would be saying my opinion because i said "i think" at the start of that comment


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Sovannara is not online. Sovannara
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16 Aug 2016 11:39 PM
but its still hate speech it doesnt matter if you said it was your opinion, that sort of stuff reinforces harmful stereotypes about others and can hurt them
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Allergenics is not online. Allergenics
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16 Aug 2016 11:40 PM
@sovan

it's still freedom of speech and even though it may be hurtful to someone as long as they didn't agree saying that they couldn't say things like they said then you can't punish them for it


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ValravnCP is not online. ValravnCP
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16 Aug 2016 11:41 PM
Yeah but unfortunately the (American) government is changing the first amendment because of political correctness and trying to get rid of the second amendment. Freedom of speech is not the same as it was before Obama came into office.
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Sovannara is not online. Sovannara
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16 Aug 2016 11:42 PM
"Yeah but unfortunately the (American) government is changing the first amendment because of political correctness and trying to get rid of the second amendment. Freedom of speech is not the same as it was before Obama came into office."

stopping people from inciting violence through hate speech is not infringing on freedom of speech
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