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Re: TCD is not an honorable clan

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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
Joined: 12 May 2011
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05 Aug 2016 03:15 PM
Updated their fort without FC's consent multiple times.

Avoid them for wars.
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DeIuxee is not online. DeIuxee
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05 Aug 2016 03:17 PM
Their base is super fun and really fast paced.


Don't Hesitate, I decimate.
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DeIuxee is not online. DeIuxee
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05 Aug 2016 03:18 PM
Also they updated once for VAK as their C spawn was on the terminal so they moved it back.


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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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05 Aug 2016 03:18 PM
@Deluxee

I agree, it was pretty fun at the start.

But now that the war started today, definitely not the base we went to war with. Just not fun.
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gostriderthe2 is not online. gostriderthe2
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05 Aug 2016 03:18 PM
Really wished Kroxon would post the chat logs, I don't feel like having this develop into a C&G flame war, since I respect FC and you q.q.

Although I do think the things you said nearing the end of the raid, were a bit to intense Ned, not trying to be rude, just my opinion.
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stix7 is not online. stix7
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05 Aug 2016 03:18 PM
"Their base is super fun and really fast paced. "

might wanna check now my vak friend
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ItsAGraveSituation is not online. ItsAGraveSituation
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05 Aug 2016 03:18 PM
this thread does literally nothing lol


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DeIuxee is not online. DeIuxee
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05 Aug 2016 03:18 PM
What did they update?


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kroxon is not online. kroxon
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05 Aug 2016 03:19 PM
We updated it BEFORE war start.

AND

To please you guys me and intensesnows discussed some last minute changes an hour before the war started. You weren't present for negotiations and I HAVE CHAT LOGS of intensesnows consent to the current state of our base.
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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05 Aug 2016 03:20 PM
"Really wished Kroxon would post the chat logs"

There are no chatlogs to post.

FC never approved of >ANY< of the base updates, they were all without our consent.

Then Kroxon says "Oh well Intense approved some things..." and completely twists FC's wants. For instance, Intense said okay to some health things being added in. When we went to the fort this morning, there were way too many and they were in every spot that TCD rushes.

Not only that, but we did not approve of >ANYTHING< that occurred at B.
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kroxon is not online. kroxon
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05 Aug 2016 03:22 PM
The only thing we changed since VAK raided earlier was we remove some health packs, gave more cover for raiders, and removed the minigun class.

All of which were requested by FC.
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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05 Aug 2016 03:22 PM
"We updated it BEFORE war start."

The war started when the thread was posted. Any base updates past that point have to be >APPROVED<, which they >WERE NOT<.

When FC approached you about this situation, you said that you >COULDN'T< handle your own developer and that he did updates as he wished. We wanted a revert, you guys refused.

Not only did you update it even more, including adding a bridge to B and rockets, but this was never even known about for FC.

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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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05 Aug 2016 03:25 PM
"The only thing we changed since VAK raided earlier was we remove some health packs, gave more cover for raiders, and removed the minigun class."

THESE WERE ALL UPDATES THAT HAPPENED >AFTER< OUR WAR THREAD

FC >DID NOT APPROVE<

Did FC approve of the bridge at B? No.

Did FC approve of the roof at B? No.

Did FC approve of being able to take B from the roof? No.

Did FC approve of rockets? No.

Did FC approve of the windows at A? No.

Did FC approve of all the cover added at A? No. (In fact we were willing to let that one slide >AFTER< due to it not affecting it too much).

Did FC approve of the cover at the front for TCD at C? No.

Did FC approve of the amount of health orbs? No.

Did FC approve of the positioning of health orbs? No. In fact, you refused to remove them!

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DeIuxee is not online. DeIuxee
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05 Aug 2016 03:25 PM
Woah no need to argue people, also rockets were in it a few days ago as they are super annoying for holding B and the bridge is quite OP when we raided 2 days ago as they can go up there and spam rockets onto B.


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stix7 is not online. stix7
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05 Aug 2016 03:25 PM
get em ned
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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05 Aug 2016 03:26 PM
"Woah no need to argue people, also rockets were in it a few days ago as they are super annoying for holding B and the bridge is quite OP when we raided 2 days ago as they can go up there and spam rockets onto B."

That's my point Deluxe, we never approved of any of this.

Yet TCD thinks its okay because they updated "before" the official war start, yet they signed war terms weeks ago, meaning base updates had to be approved.
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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05 Aug 2016 03:30 PM
Alright, time to stop fighting and let the leaders handle this. Thanks.
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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05 Aug 2016 03:32 PM
Sorry False, but as you can see by Kroxon's response, he is incompetent of understanding the problem.

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kroxon is not online. kroxon
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05 Aug 2016 03:39 PM
This is at 1:43 earlier today. Before war started:

IntenseSnows - Today at 1:43 PM
remove the front wall and that's good
thank you
TCD|| Kroxon - Today at 1:44 PM
the front wall is the one closest to us?
IntenseSnows - Today at 1:44 PM
yes
the one between us and you
TCD|| Kroxon - Today at 1:44 PM
ok sure
is that it?
[somepicture that didntget copied here]
IntenseSnows - Today at 1:46 PM
give me a second
can you make the gap a little bit bigger?
other than that it's good


"other than that it's good"

Ok. I'm no inclined to listen to you when the ONLY person in negotiations on your side told me this:

TCD|| Kroxon - Today at 12:55 PM
nederlandz is on another level omg
i literally have a tumor in my brain now
IntenseSnows - Today at 12:55 PM
for the most part u can ignore him


------------------------------------

Furthermore! About the updates!

He sent me an album AN HOUR before the war started with everything he wanted changed LAST MINUTE:

/a/M25Om

Following that he said this:

IntenseSnows - Today at 1:25 PM
ignore picture 3
i'll be reasonable and say ignore that one
the rest is what we want instead of this new wall

So that BRIDGE is something he allowed. I did edit the rest, I don't want to take too much space with the chatlogs. PM me personally if you want to see the full thing, pal.
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CaptainZorua is not online. CaptainZorua
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05 Aug 2016 03:40 PM
LOL
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SpiralOfDeath is not online. SpiralOfDeath
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05 Aug 2016 03:40 PM
Rekt
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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05 Aug 2016 03:41 PM
You seemed to leave out where we wanted to revert and you literally refused! Nice!

These >LAST MINUTE CHANGES< were because you updated your fort >SO MUCH< that we didn't even know about it.

Also, Picture 3 is a healer, not the bridge, idiot. I'm the one that made that album if you didn't notice.
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gostriderthe2 is not online. gostriderthe2
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05 Aug 2016 03:42 PM
Nice job Krox, hopefully Ned will calm down now, from what I've seen looks like there was no bs in the logs.
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kroxon is not online. kroxon
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05 Aug 2016 03:43 PM
Me and IntenseSnows TALKED about reverting it like a few weeks ago.

I told him that we aren't going to revert it, in the same way you won't use guns.

He accepted the fact and simply asked for changes which we provided for him.
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SirKittyMcBlox is not online. SirKittyMcBlox
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05 Aug 2016 03:44 PM
Owch
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