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Re: Open Statement to Fusolmirion

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guilbrob000 is not online. guilbrob000
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03 Aug 2016 09:32 AM
Dear Fusolmirion (And Open C&G),

First of all, let me state to the open C&G community and Roblox itself.
This is not a personal attack nor am I trying to attract hate or anything upon this user.
I am speaking openly because of the attack he/she has done upon my group, which relates and dictates directly under C&G.
If this is seen as a personal attack, I will take the needed time (warning/ban) and I will understand that even in Roblox of 2016 that other users cannot speak up on any users at any given time, even if it’s with a Developer needing to discuss any copies of his places and associations.
(Thank you for reading and I hope you enjoy.)
[Tl;dr at the bottom.]



You have been ‘blacklisted’ in your own words, which in reality is temporarily banned until issues are solved, from The War Series places. However, what you did instead of contacting us about the issue, talking to us about said issue and maybe waiting 24 hours for that said issue to talk to a higher up or myself, has us believe you deserve to be on said ‘blacklist’.

Fusol,

Coming to our Operating Facility(training place), demanding to be unbanned then when it doesn't happen in your own personal time barrier, to try to steal our Forward Outpost Valencina (fort) is not OK. In fact, if you were somehow placed on this never-ending blacklist, this would be the very reason to keep you out of The War Series and her places.
When would this be okay, to come into someone's game to try and ‘force’ them to unban you by stealing or ‘leaking’ places? Did the ol’ famous 2.0 copier from 2012, call?

You have stolen our property, harassed our members and caused a scene.
I have neither the time nor the patience to talk to you after this public message.
You were temporarily banned based on personal relations between you and another member, I urge anyone who has an issue with anything relating to TWS to contact myself or my team to resolve said issues. After hearing about these short events and the aftermath of them within a short span of no more than 2-4 hours of your actions being done, with no chance to respond from my side, your accounts will be ‘blacklisted’ from our places.
Further copying and malpractice of intellectual property along with following 6.C (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) of Roblox Terms of Service will results in more reports being sent under your name and any accounts associated.
These reports will be sent in to secure our stolen assets and any further stolen property.

I thank you and the C&G Community for reading, and I hope this public statement really helps you open your eyes to what you have done with or without realizing it,

Commandant Valentin Virgil of The War Series
The Staff (The War Series)

[Tl;dr: Fusol stole assets after he thought he was blacklisted, gets blacklisted due to it, I write about this.]


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Fusolmirion is not online. Fusolmirion
Joined: 06 Sep 2010
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03 Aug 2016 09:43 AM
Right lets do my reply
Coming to our Operating Facility(training place), demanding to be unbanned then when it doesn't happen in your own personal time barrier, to try to steal our Forward Outpost Valencina (fort) is not OK. [ I did not demand I asked and it very calm and your highranks handled the situation very well] In fact, if you were somehow placed on this never-ending blacklist, this would be the very reason to keep you out of The War Series and her places. [I do no want to be in your group, but I do want to raid with my clans being if you think you are a relevant clan are you not?]
When would this be okay, to come into someone's game to try and ‘force’ them to unban you by stealing or ‘leaking’ places? Did the ol’ famous 2.0 copier from 2012, call? [ Nobody is forcing anything its a game its your choice there are no guns to your head I asked simply to be unban and taking it public is a bit weird]

You have stolen our property, harassed our members and caused a scene. [ I have harassed no one]
I have neither the time nor the patience to talk to you after this public message. [ You sent me a private pm]
You were temporarily banned based on personal relations between you and another member, I urge anyone who has an issue with anything relating to TWS to contact myself or my team to resolve said issues. [ Temeporily is a lie when I've been banned for weeks and without being notify of the ban or told when its done and it hasn't been brought up to till I confronted your highranks about it and I did message you and you didn't respond]
https://gyazo.com/3d90106eef07f25144f0ea14f50b7f59
After hearing about these short events and the aftermath of them within a short span of no more than 2-4 hours of your actions being done, with no chance to respond from my side, your accounts will be ‘blacklisted’ from our places. [ Why is this not in a pm again?]
Further copying and malpractice of intellectual property along with following 6.C (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) of Roblox Terms of Service will results in more reports being sent under your name and any accounts associated. [ "Digital Millennium Copyright Act," Cringe and thanks for the proof if I get mass report spammed I guess]
These reports will be sent in to secure our stolen assets and any further stolen property. [ Good luck but that false reporting due to own insecurity which is against the terms itself]

I thank you and the C&G Community for reading, and I hope this public statement really helps you open your eyes to what you have done with or without realizing it, [This is obviously intended for personal message not the community, but ya know]

Commandant Valentin Virgil of The War Series
The Staff (The War Series)

[Tl;dr: Fusol stole assets after he thought he was blacklisted, gets blacklisted due to it, I write about this. ["Thought" I was already banned from all places if thats not a blacklist if I don't know what is]


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B1900D is not online. B1900D
Joined: 16 Mar 2010
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03 Aug 2016 09:45 AM
Dear Fusolmirion (And Open C&G),

First of all, let me state to the open C&G community and Roblox itself.
This is not a personal attack nor am I trying to attract hate or anything upon this user.
I am speaking openly because of the attack he/she has done upon my group, which relates and dictates directly under C&G.
If this is seen as a personal attack, I will take the needed time (warning/ban) and I will understand that even in Roblox of 2016 that other users cannot speak up on any users at any given time, even if it’s with a Developer needing to discuss any copies of his places and associations.
(Thank you for reading and I hope you enjoy.)
[Tl;dr at the bottom.]



You have been ‘blacklisted’ in your own words, which in reality is temporarily banned until issues are solved, from The War Series places. However, what you did instead of contacting us about the issue, talking to us about said issue and maybe waiting 24 hours for that said issue to talk to a higher up or myself, has us believe you deserve to be on said ‘blacklist’.

Fusol,

Coming to our Operating Facility(training place), demanding to be unbanned then when it doesn't happen in your own personal time barrier, to try to steal our Forward Outpost Valencina (fort) is not OK. In fact, if you were somehow placed on this never-ending blacklist, this would be the very reason to keep you out of The War Series and her places.
When would this be okay, to come into someone's game to try and ‘force’ them to unban you by stealing or ‘leaking’ places? Did the ol’ famous 2.0 copier from 2012, call?

You have stolen our property, harassed our members and caused a scene.
I have neither the time nor the patience to talk to you after this public message.
You were temporarily banned based on personal relations between you and another member, I urge anyone who has an issue with anything relating to TWS to contact myself or my team to resolve said issues. After hearing about these short events and the aftermath of them within a short span of no more than 2-4 hours of your actions being done, with no chance to respond from my side, your accounts will be ‘blacklisted’ from our places.
Further copying and malpractice of intellectual property along with following 6.C (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) of Roblox Terms of Service will results in more reports being sent under your name and any accounts associated.
These reports will be sent in to secure our stolen assets and any further stolen property.

I thank you and the C&G Community for reading, and I hope this public statement really helps you open your eyes to what you have done with or without realizing it,

Commandant Valentin Virgil of The War Series
The Staff (The War Series)

[Tl;dr: Fusol stole assets after he thought he was blacklisted, gets blacklisted due to it, I write about this.]




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Fusolmirion is not online. Fusolmirion
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03 Aug 2016 09:46 AM
I have neither the time nor the patience to talk to you after this public message. [ You sent me a private pm] - Being notify me of this with weird videos that I messed with the wrong person meaning something I presume
https://gyazo.com/ec011fffad12fa3e43490fe575b6ce31


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Erick_Cassel is not online. Erick_Cassel
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03 Aug 2016 09:48 AM
Kid you're not gonna do anything stop acting hard on a lego forum


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guilbrob000 is not online. guilbrob000
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03 Aug 2016 09:55 AM
@ Erick

Roblox is not a 'lego forum', developers make money and clans are built.
In the end, it's on the internet and such assets are protected with copyright laws and regulations. I'm aware of the C&G community and how it goes and how this can look to anyone who may of had a random start-up, but we are not a random start up and we will take action against anyone who tries to copy assets. I publicly put the starting statement on the forum for a reason.
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guilbrob000 is not online. guilbrob000
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03 Aug 2016 09:56 AM
@Fusol
I sent you those videos to have the general mood of how abrupt it was for me to wake up this morning to find someone copying assets and more. I also took the time to make this forum and simply replying to the message I sent you doesn't really plead your case.

Read it, reply to it.
If you disagree in any points or factors, we will discuss it.
But due to all of which is written; the assets, the actions taken and more, that is where I stand.
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Fusolmirion is not online. Fusolmirion
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03 Aug 2016 09:59 AM
06090a31e8861700354c082fcc5ac13a

gyazo


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guilbrob000 is not online. guilbrob000
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03 Aug 2016 10:03 AM
c153wj
prtscr

I'll be awaiting your message, but all of this is personal case to case, the only argument you really could have is that you were banned and wanted to raid or there was 'no reason' to ban. All of it is personal relations.

Awaiting your response,
Valentin Virgil
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guilbrob000 is not online. guilbrob000
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03 Aug 2016 10:13 AM
Fusol, a reply to ya.

First of all, you are responding to the full extent of my message 'oh noo!' 'but i did!'.
When you avoid and say the 'cringe' of the copyright and DCMA Terms of Service Roblox applies to every user account when you stole our assets to 'prove a point'.
I had not heard from you since that message, and honestly I've been busy with real life issues and group relations. Instead of trying to continue to contact me, you contacted my higher ups. However, you stealing FOV to 'wake me up' then continuing to 'harass' in a way that basically kept pushing it on them, when they couldn't do anything to really help you, all matters must be discussed with myself.

In conclusion,
I can reply to the very points you said, and keep this 'tug of war' going. This does not change the fact that you came, pushed yourself upon my highers and then when they couldn't do anything, exploited our assets to 'get my attention'. 'Alert him that I have his places'.

prtscr
c1597k

Low quality due to it being recorded, I can upload said video if need be.
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Erick_Cassel is not online. Erick_Cassel
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03 Aug 2016 10:17 AM
You're making it seem as if you assets were super special, Apocalypse Rising, Phantom Forces and many other ACTUALLY good and time built games have been leaked multiple and multiple of times. Have you seen ROBLOX do anything about it? No, what makes you think they're gonna actually care for your garbage as assets


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Fusolmirion is not online. Fusolmirion
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03 Aug 2016 10:19 AM
c153wj
prtscr

I'll be awaiting your message, but all of this is personal case to case, the only argument you really could have is that you were banned and wanted to raid or there was 'no reason' to ban. All of it is personal relations.

- "personal case to case" But you post on forums
- Yes one of your highranks was going tours it was saying it was tours personal relations and I said that would be unjust reason for and it would need proof regardless




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guilbrob000 is not online. guilbrob000
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03 Aug 2016 10:20 AM
@Erick
I am not saying ours are above the standard copies of Phantom Forces, Apoc Rising, etc.
This actually is what happens a lot on Roblox, with the standard copies.
As I said;
"Further copying and malpractice of intellectual property along with following 6.C (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) of Roblox Terms of Service will results in more reports being sent under your name and any accounts associated.
These reports will be sent in to secure our stolen assets and any further stolen property."
I am not speaking with a mini-mod or God complex, I am just assuring that if any further content is stolen, we will take action as any user with stolen content, would.
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guilbrob000 is not online. guilbrob000
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03 Aug 2016 10:25 AM
Personal case to case, but in this case you decided to exploit assets, like I've said is against Roblox Terms of Service.
You did this to get my 'attention', now you have it.
I publicly released this statement because assets have been stolen and you continued to press and press without actually discussing said issue with myself.
In fact, the whole time you were with my team you were just pushing for me to be online, there was no 'justified' means to actually copy our assets and to keep pressing.

- Yes one of your highranks was going tours it was saying it was tours personal relations and I said that would be unjust reason for and it would need proof regardless

What?
Tours and personal relations and..?
They handled it in the best way they can and if you had an issue, and reviewing the video footage, they kept pushing that you'd need to discuss it with me.
Once again, you told them and I'll post the same prtscr I just did, 'Let him know I have his places' as a bargaining chip.

c1597k
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Fusolmirion is not online. Fusolmirion
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03 Aug 2016 10:26 AM
First of all, you are responding to the full extent of my message 'oh noo!' 'but i did!'
I don't know where you those words from I don't see them.
When you avoid and say the 'cringe' of the copyright and DCMA Terms of Service Roblox applies to every user account when you stole our assets to 'prove a point'.

Yes its cringy do you think you can arrested for owning a map on www.roblox.com? You need to chillax thats why its cringy

I had not heard from you since that message,and honestly I've been busy with real life issues and group relations.
But you can't reply to my message?
Instead of trying to continue to contact me, you contacted my higher ups. However, you stealing FOV to 'wake me up'
I have no idea what you're talking about I didn't want your attention but of course to talk about it but you want to go public and FOV literally has nothing to do with you just alittle beef between me and asaski which went no where and literally what would FOV have to do with you?
then continuing to 'harass' in a way that basically kept pushing it on them, when they couldn't do anything to really help you, all matters must be discussed with myself.

I did not harass them if you have a video then you clearly see its mainly about the ban and I made sure it was kept that way just owning the places as alittle more convincing because I see the ban as unjust in the first place.

- Whole thing is pure slander
-



In conclusion,
I can reply to the very points you said, and keep this 'tug of war' going. This does not change the fact that you came, pushed yourself upon my highers and then when they couldn't do anything, exploited our assets to 'get my attention'. 'Alert him that I have his places'.

I already had the places before I came there, wat





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guilbrob000 is not online. guilbrob000
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03 Aug 2016 10:27 AM
@Erick
Anyone who owns stolen assets, such as Phantom Forces, usually does get banned even if they were a person who was just curious, the moment it turns for profit or violating the DCMA terms, they content delete it.

Stolen assets are stolen assets, plain and simple.
Doesn't matter if you're a dev with PF or a low key dev with a tycoon.
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guilbrob000 is not online. guilbrob000
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03 Aug 2016 10:32 AM
@ Fusol
Once again, I am not talking about taking legal action, I used big terms so that way you guys understand how serious stolen content is on Roblox. I am not currently interested in pursuing any legal action as Roblox has its policies set up for stolen assets.

Also, apparently Erick is the one who stole assets, someone uploaded them to an account, an account you said was yours and told once again, in that prntsrn to the Corporal, that he needs to let me know that you stole our places.
c1597k

I will be uploading the video if need be, but honestly, it has so many holes and things that you could go 'SEE!' but the main point of it all is that you, or an account you had, had stolen assets. Even if you didn't exploit to get them, you owned them.
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BubleSZK3 is not online. BubleSZK3
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03 Aug 2016 10:34 AM
Why do you care.

TWS gets like 4 people to events.
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guilbrob000 is not online. guilbrob000
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03 Aug 2016 10:34 AM
@ Erick
You are publicly stating that you have stolen assets and that you've stolen ours.
You are repeating yourself at this point and so am I.
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03 Aug 2016 10:35 AM
@ Buble
If something means something to you, you made and it's hard work, protected by regulations and ToS of a site, I'm pretty sure you'd be upset even if you were the only one working on it.
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Fusolmirion is not online. Fusolmirion
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03 Aug 2016 10:36 AM
Personal case to case, but in this case you decided to exploit assets, like I've said is against Roblox Terms of Service.

Now I merely have the places lets keep that in mind

You did this to get my 'attention', now you have it.

You've been talking to apollo you didn't reply to me so I went to your highcom right its common sense to go to the highranks and I then asked and as I put you didn't reply to me when you were online
I publicly released this statement because assets have been stolen and you continued to press and press without actually discussing said issue with myself.
*looks at screenshot* again i went to your highranks asking for you to get back to me and look what happened you replied but in a open manner which isn't necessary at all you could of easily replied back and we could of talked at a place, but you know I'm the one for attention

In fact, the whole time you were with my team you were just pushing for me to be online, there was no 'justified' means to actually copy our assets and to keep pressing.
I was seeing if they said you were online or not yes thats again common sense "can you go see if hes online" theres no problem with that and again I tryed to keep it that the ban was unjust overall

- Yes one of your highranks was going tours it was saying it was tours personal relations and I said that would be unjust reason for and it would need proof regardless

What?
Tours and personal relations and..?
Vizrus mentioned it would be about apoll_o issues as you can see in the video when it first begins and thats why the whole reason it'd be unjust and just biased
They handled it in the best way they can and if you had an issue, and reviewing the video footage, they kept pushing that you'd need to discuss it with me.
Yes and I was open to that I was aware they couldn't do anything I was just seeing they could contact you if you were online which again is common sense

Once again, you told them and I'll post the same prtscr I just did, 'Let him know I have his places' as a bargaining chip.

Again try to keep it to the main subject it was unjust and I wish to be unbanned



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03 Aug 2016 10:37 AM
i love getting mad on a kiddies lego game
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Fusolmirion is not online. Fusolmirion
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03 Aug 2016 10:38 AM
Also, apparently Erick is the one who stole assets, someone uploaded them to an account, an account you said was yours and told once again, in that prntsrn to the Corporal, that he needs to let me know that you stole our places.
c1597k

- I don't man I read that as I own it not stole it


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Fusolmirion is not online. Fusolmirion
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03 Aug 2016 10:39 AM
I don't know*


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03 Aug 2016 10:39 AM
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Mad /=/ Discussion or Debate
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