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Re: What is this 'Power Pact'?

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LordAstros is not online. LordAstros
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28 Jul 2016 11:08 PM
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SylvianSurfer is not online. SylvianSurfer
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28 Jul 2016 11:08 PM
project intuitive, resade, honor, smu
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Afraidskarface is not online. Afraidskarface
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28 Jul 2016 11:10 PM
A temporary war-driven alliance between The Stratocracy, Resade, Super Mutant Unity, Honor, and a possible TBA 5th member that will be starting up in 2 weeks, declaring war on 8-10 clans (depending if the 5th one joins or not).
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TENSHl is not online. TENSHl
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28 Jul 2016 11:10 PM
wait, honor is part of it?
also it used to be SF TSD and ORKz


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SylvianSurfer is not online. SylvianSurfer
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28 Jul 2016 11:10 PM
i thought honor was a part of this
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r_tribution is not online. r_tribution
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28 Jul 2016 11:12 PM
tni used to be in it


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TyrantEther is not online. TyrantEther
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28 Jul 2016 11:13 PM
garbage that's what it is
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LordAstros is not online. LordAstros
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28 Jul 2016 11:14 PM
how is this going to work if SMU and Honor are going to war?


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Afraidskarface is not online. Afraidskarface
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28 Jul 2016 11:15 PM
@Sylvian

" The Stratocracy, Resade, Super Mutant Unity, >>>>>Honor<<<<<,"

@r_

TNI was never in Power Pact. Hell, the first time around, TNI was one of the enemies.
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Moose_God is not online. Moose_God
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28 Jul 2016 11:16 PM
It's a coalition, honestly i like the other clans in it besides Statocracy, but they don't know its history

1 year ago Power Pact was a thing, it was TSD SF and ORKz

They declared war on 5 clans, 3 of whom hated each other, 1 of whom was just plain bad and a top 10 clan just so they can get an easy win on a decent clan

He actually declared war on clans which hated each other on PURPOSE to ensure they don't cooperate. (Those clans were TFC and SURGE, though TCC was also there, TCC disliked TFC and SURGE too)

They unilaterally declared war, said they 'hate negotiations' and refused to negotiate. They said the clans they declared on HAD to work together or they surrender. They just posted some war terms and said we *HAD* to follow them, of course clans which war declared on were NOT allowed to bring in their own allies and HAD to put a PP-Clan only script

As time went on, SF was caught cheating, and eventually pulled out of the war, which Obtention allowed, probably because they were so close to losing. If I remember correctly he also raised number of wins clan needs on TSD/ORKz

Obtention decided TCC was too threatening and told them to leave the war. He then proceeded to add TNI to the opposing side uni

Eventually ORKz got tired of his bs and declared war on HIM, he proceeded to make a thread unilaterally ending the war and group banning ORKz from his fort, of course he took the win on the clans which have already surrendered (SURGE and TNI) and walked away

It was probably the largest failure of a war ever to be declared, and now obtention is shamelessly doing the exact same thing, stuffing terms down throaths in the exact same way even with the exact same name.




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Afraidskarface is not online. Afraidskarface
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28 Jul 2016 11:17 PM
@Lord

I am acting as a neutral party between the two clans in-case things to straight to hell; right now it is a pretty friendly war, for competition. A spar, if you will. This way they can sharpen themselves for the upcoming war, which will be very hard.
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LordAstros is not online. LordAstros
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28 Jul 2016 11:19 PM
thanks moose


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LordIntense is not online. LordIntense
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28 Jul 2016 11:19 PM
lol the power pact got rekted
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Moose_God is not online. Moose_God
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28 Jul 2016 11:21 PM
yea power pact got destroyed tbh

obtention somehow managed to lose to 2 clans at war a free win clan a somewhat good clan and SC with the #1 clan at the time (SC) and a top 10 clan (ORKz) whom he eventually ended up group banning


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Afraidskarface is not online. Afraidskarface
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28 Jul 2016 11:38 PM
First, let it be noted that the actions of the past do not affect the present, but I will address them regardless.

PP1 declared war on 6 clans. The 2015 roster:

The Sovereign Dominion
Soticule Forces
The Green Tide

vs.

Sleet Clan [later exiled from the war because of their continuing bs and arrogance, replaced with The Nighthawk Imperium to compensate]
The Clockwork Corporation
The Forest Clan
RSF
The Imperial Insurgence
Lortex Security

I was unaware of the conflicts between the belligerents against PP1 until much later; I had planned this war for 2 weeks, and 2 weeks prior to this there were no conflicts between the targets.

We did also try to negotiate with Sleet Clan prior to their exilation. Their exclusion is a prime reason why we didn't want to sit around in a room with people, planning a war. It is a cancer to the community. See: FoA v VAK, as a more recent example.

We also did not say that the clans HAD to work together or they surrender. We stated that we would be marching on their homeland regardless of their decision.

We also said allies were allowed, just not formal entrance into the war. You can see it in the video here: https://youtu.be/ae5ejpugvf0?t=2m43s -- pretty simple terms, nothing too complicated. No one was opposed to them. We did not say you had to put in a PP-Clan only script.

SF was indeed caught cheating. They were not close to losing, though. They pulled out of the war because they were reforming. I lowkey agree with you that paul pulled out because they were taking the most damage though. Their leaving certainly made things less complicated, I'll tell you that. We did not raise the amount of wins needed on TSD & ORKz.

& LOL that I "told TCC to leave the war." Clock first said he was going to surrender, then I said it wasn't necessary and that he could just leave the war.

And the reason to ORKz leaving was because Raethyr /literally/ has anger issues. We were raiding TCC and him and one of my high ranks were getting mad at each other. In response, he left the raid & Power Pact and declared war. I laughed and planned to take care of them 2 weeks after the Power Pact war; after we got some new stuff in TSD done. I banned them from our fort as a joke, and to see how they would respond. In turn, they declared an autowin. The guy is very mentally unstable and I wish him the best of health.

I can also condemn your claims @ your last paragraph; I am cooperating with the clans I have declared war on, and even have edited the roster to the majority of the clans liking. Things are going swimmingly.
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Afraidskarface is not online. Afraidskarface
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28 Jul 2016 11:42 PM
tl;dr: Moose's claims are 90% false and Power Pact won the war.
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TheScourged is not online. TheScourged
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28 Jul 2016 11:44 PM
Honor vs SMU is a friendly war.

SMU wanted to war someone fair, and we're on about the same level of skill/activity.

Once the war is over, SMU and Honor are allying.

~LV
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Moose_God is not online. Moose_God
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28 Jul 2016 11:46 PM
My memory is a bit shaky so I might've made some mistakes in there but I do remember for sure literally everyone had a problem with the terms yet you refused to negotiate with everyone

Also, reason you kicked SC was because they were pulling the vaaaaast majority of the wins and it seemed like we were going to win, so you 'exiled' them for not liking them? What even? We should've exiled you

Let's also not forget that when SF cheated we only got 1 raid win compensation

And no raethyr is perfectly fine, also even he *DID* have anger issues, you group banned him for sure


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kroxon is not online. kroxon
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28 Jul 2016 11:49 PM
Interesting.
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Biofrostt is not online. Biofrostt
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28 Jul 2016 11:50 PM
Let TNI be 5th member they are giving resade a run for their mondy
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Afraidskarface is not online. Afraidskarface
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28 Jul 2016 11:54 PM
No, I literally kicked out SC because they were being a pain in the ass with not changing their base and other stuff that I can't remember. All I remember was that they were making the war completely unnecessarily dramatic and are a prime reason why clans struggle to finish wars, and I didn't want any part in that. Clans like TNI and SURGE were very easy to talk to. Especially TNI.

OwneD1991 was acting like a total tumor, and I no longer wanted to deal with his crap and his crap base.
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SirIsOP is not online. SirIsOP
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28 Jul 2016 11:59 PM
Resade and TNI don't mix
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Moose_God is not online. Moose_God
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29 Jul 2016 12:04 AM
"No, I literally kicked out SC because they were being a pain in the ass with not changing their base and other stuff that I can't remember. All I remember was that they were making the war completely unnecessarily dramatic and are a prime reason why clans struggle to finish wars, and I didn't want any part in that. Clans like TNI and SURGE were very easy to talk to. Especially TNI.

OwneD1991 was acting like a total tumor, and I no longer wanted to deal with his crap and his crap base."

So you unilaterally kicked them from the war without anyone else's opinion due to your inability to scout a fort


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iMagmorticus is not online. iMagmorticus
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29 Jul 2016 12:06 AM
Yeah I'll admit it was a really bad decision for me to not scout their fort prior to declaring. No sarcasm here.
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Moose_God is not online. Moose_God
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29 Jul 2016 12:08 AM
So you pinned down your bad decision onto SC and tried to kick them out mid war?

Are you willing to accept your mistakes yet?

as in kicking clans midwar


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