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Trade and Ꮜnion's Petition for Roblox's Overall Improvement

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"3. Add a sort of "Due Process" for Roblox
With Roblox’s popularity growing at such a high rate, having people spend more and more money on this website’s products, there is no question that Robloxians deserve a form of protection from unfair termination and bans. In the United States court of law, due process is the idea that a citizen is entitled to certain legal rights when being charged with a crime. The prosecutor must clearly state the crime of which the person is being accused and the person is also given the right to have an attorney among many other things. I am not in any way suggesting that Roblox set up some sort of virtual court to deal with bans, but what I am suggesting is that Roblox provide the person that they accuse of breaking the rules with three things:

1. A distinct accusation. What rule did they break?
2. Roblox’s evidence of them breaking the rule. Chat logs? Forum thread? Suspicious activity?
3. Give the user a fair chance to defend themselves. If the user has counter-evidence to prove that the original evidence is inconclusive, allow them to provide it and have it fairly examined."

This part is useless, you know the average age of ROBLOX I assume, so if you do understand this you understand that they will most likely just keep using the same "I didn't do it", or not even try at all. The current moderation system does work, and if you are wrongfully banned then you can email appeals@Roblox. If your ban is no longer then a few hours or a day then deal with it and go do something else with your life.

"Everyone deserves the right to know why they are being moderated and they need to be given a FAIR chance to provide proof that a misunderstanding is at hand when such a misunderstanding exists!"

You are given a message included what your offence was when banned. If you believe what you didn't say/do wasn't offensive/ didn't break TOS/rules, then simply email appeals@roblox

"It would be much easier for Roblox to focus on this if they decreased the amount of work that was put on them through item and account theft among other things. That's where points 4 and 5 come in."

Totally not true, this would mean more ROBLOX moderators would have to focus on this system for every individual ban. And considering the long list of suggestions you have here, it would be impossible. You must have one or the other.

"4. Take a Trade-at-your-own-risk stance
Roblox is trying to take on the impossible task of policing the entire website. As the community has grown in size and more rules are added, Roblox has set themselves up to fail. It is simply not possible to catch every rule breaker with the current system and in the process of trying, people are getting away with more significant offences while victims are being left without help; the Roblox moderation team has too much on their plate. That is why I am suggesting that Roblox take a stance of neutrality with trading in general. "Trade at your own risk"
This is something that Steam currently does that I believe Roblox can learn from. I do not work for Roblox and thus do not know their actual statistics, but I would speculate that a large majority of their inquiries come from item theft. If Roblox made it very clear that when people traded assets, they did so assuming their own risk, Roblox would not have to dump their time and effort into attempting to figure out whether or not a person acted with malicious intent. Should I be able to swim without a lifeguard present? Of course! I would do so at my own risk. Taking this stance would allow for easier trading between people within the community because, as things stand currently, many rule-abiding people fear moderation or termination due to an over-worked moderation staff attempting an unfeasible task. If I want to let my friend borrow one of my items to wear for a day, I should be able to do that without risking moderation. Coupled with an improved trading system, this stance could free up energy and time for a moderation staff that would be able to better-serve everyone."

Although I do agree that trading should be at your own risk, it doesn't mean it should let scammers get-off scotch free. In the DevEx TOS you are deniable to DevEx if you have ever scammed, and with good reason; bad reputation. Not only that but you didn't include the idea of "h4x0rs" like you do include them later on.

"7. Improve Forum Moderation
This may seem unnecessary, but a slight change in moderation would cause an immense number of benefits for the website. It can be difficult for moderators to delete every thread that is against the rules; some of them go by unseen due to the moderator’s difficult job of scanning over all threads in an entire forum. This only accounts for some of the missed threads and posts that go by. Some of them are due to a sheer bit of ignorance on the moderator’s part. That is not intended to be taken as an insult. I ask you all, how can an outsider to a forum be expected to moderate it? That is just it; they cannot. I propose that strong community leaders are given more power in the moderation process. Do not misinterpret what I just said; I am not suggesting that Roblox reverts back into the old community moderation system where users have complete moderation power. I am instead suggesting that community moderators work alongside the current Roblox moderators. These individuals, who would be hand-selected by Roblox, would have a way to report threads that are inappropriate or go against Roblox’s terms of service in some way; they would have no actual deletion ability whatsoever. I can sense what many of you are thinking. “There already is a report button!” That report button is used and abused by so many Robloxians, to the point of it being useless. These community moderator reports would take priority over regular Robloxian reports. This would bring the moderator’s attention to more of the inappropriate threads and posts increase the speed at which they are removed. Another great benefit of this, the community moderators would certainly be willing to do this at no cost to the company. "

There is a reason why the community does not control this anymore; forum elitist.
All a 'community leader' would have to do to get someone ban is to build a group of followers and mass attack they're target. You may not like the way some moderators let people go, or whatever but I'm sure they see it from all points and not just how the forum elitist want it to be. *No I am not saying troll post should be ignored, but it does just happen; nothing is perfect.* To add, mods are least likely to be biased against a certain group/person in a forum then any regular player would be.

"8. Fix groups
This is a minor point, but I still believe that it should be here. For whatever reason, groups are incredibly glitchy, to the point of being difficult to use. This is especially an issue in large groups when trying to make changes. With the addition of group funds and games, groups are the way of the future for Roblox so it is vital that all group functions run smoothly all the time."

*RIP* You have built this wonderful wall of text, and then they come down here and see this half-fast addition.

To the point: Although I agree the groups are broken in some way, this would not be the way of drawing attention to them. You can't simply say "FIX THIS PLS" and expect the moderators to understand what you mean, you need to include the broken parts and what you'd like them to focus on the most. Then if the community supports they'll obviously support the idea.

And this ends my useless rant, if I did not include one of your suggestions it means that those are the ones I support on.
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support, especially "due process" because the only way you can appeal a ban is to contact appeals@roblox.com, and they take 4 days to respond, so unless you have a 7 day ban its just a waste of time


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