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Re: Roblox's moderation is pretty underwhelming (rant)

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Swiftaloon is not online. Swiftaloon
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25 Jul 2016 04:29 AM
I think we've all encountered a no-good-what-the-hell-is-this sort of moderation action taken upon our account... And it's a bit unfair to the vast majority of the community. People who abide by the rules are still getting moderated, as which is the LARGEST flaw in the whole law and order of the site. Mainly through mass reporting, biased moderators, or some unknown filtering factor that causes quality, informational posts to get dElEtEd/ filtered/ attempted poster in a spot of trouble.

Mass reporting is definitely one of the biggest chunks that create a flawed moderation system. From my experience, it's when a person uses alts or a decently sized gang of people to all report one item or group of items to get it dElEtEd. While it's beneficial in some cases, ex. a very inappropriate thread props up when moderators go offline. In most however it ends up in the abuse category and overall just silly bans that shouldn't have been awarded to the gracious user in the first place. Even the admins have been victim of mass reporting, as seen when Off Topic got the rules thread dElEtEd. Personally I don't see this as a necessity, or if it was at some point it certainly shouldn't be a thing now considering how often it's abused by foul users. I'd be pretty A-OK with the mass reporting system being removed.

Biased moderators is an actual issue from my 4-year span on the forums. A moderator, while having it in their legal fair use I suppose to punish anyone at their whim, can be a bit 'power mad'. It's not an absolutely solid case I'm pushing, as this section is pretty vague to myself. However I CAN say I've witnessed it with mods such as DapperBuffalo and just recently InceptionTime deleting the threads posted by whitebrutus every time he posted (although it was probably under good reason, I just thought it was worth noting). In most cases the moderator in question would delete/ lock threads while providing an insulting post prior to the action. And while some see it as a gag and fun post, in reality it's a moderator going a bit overboard and crossing the line. They're essentially in my eyes stepping out of their duty to keep the forums clean and instead stir up more trouble than is necessary. Especially when they go out of their way to dElEtE any threads with their name in it following. Not all mods are like this, by far, but it's just a subtle thing you notice once you've been here a while to observe what goes on.

The filter is a pretty ominous thing when it comes to decently sized posts. And it doesn't help that it'll filter an entire post off of non-malicious words that happen to string together to make a no-no in the view of the filter. Then to follow up it won't tell us; with this the only remedy is to A) spend a very long time scouring your post for any potential breaks in innocence, or B) Dumb it down so much you really just lose interest in your own thread. A way to figure out what was filtered would be GREAT, but that would come down with more filter passing so it.. sort of makes sense I suppose? I would just overall prefer being able to find errors in posts that get it filtered. If we're going to get banned over it anyway despite it's purity in content, might as well let us post it. Let us get some satisfaction out of slaving over a post that we actually worked on. (THIS IS A MAJOR INJUSTICE WHEN IT COMES TO DAPPERNARWHAL THREADS, THOSE THINGS CAN SAVE LIVES YO!)

To really just attempt wrapping up this Roblox moderation rant that doesn't really add to anything other than the many things people complain on Roblox about, I want to say I've been terminated over a not so great reason in my opinion. I posted a seemingly harmless joke at the moment of posting about releasing a photo of a popular OT'er. This photo was a Ravenclaw themed notebook she had decorated. And to top it off I never gave a link. It was just an unintentionally suggestive thread that ended up in a bad spot. So I can clearly have a reason to dislike the moderating of Roblox, although if I had stopped and thought about it I probably wouldn't have gotten ganked by the moderators.

end of rant yes
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Geometricall is not online. Geometricall
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25 Jul 2016 04:31 AM
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matutinal is not online. matutinal
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25 Jul 2016 04:31 AM
tl;dr



sorry, summarize for me
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UnrealizedPotential is not online. UnrealizedPotential
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25 Jul 2016 04:31 AM
you realize the only reason we have a lot of moderation issues is because bots are used right
you couldn't reasonably expect mods to go through all the 1000s of reports they get every single hour
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Bloxxseen is not online. Bloxxseen
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25 Jul 2016 04:31 AM
I read all this.
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Swiftaloon is not online. Swiftaloon
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25 Jul 2016 04:33 AM
"you realize the only reason we have a lot of moderation issues is because bots are used right"

They could attempt improving their bots considering they are a vastly expanding company


"you couldn't reasonably expect mods to go through all the 1000s of reports they get every single hour"

No, I don't, not at all.
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UnrealizedPotential is not online. UnrealizedPotential
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25 Jul 2016 04:34 AM
@swift
you'd also expect them to update the forums in some meaningful way(since they're a growing company) but here we are with the same forums of 08 with only a small visual boost
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Top_K217k is not online. Top_K217k
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25 Jul 2016 04:35 AM
Holy crap DapperBuffalo , I hate that guy , seriously one of the worst moderators that I have ever seen
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Swiftaloon is not online. Swiftaloon
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25 Jul 2016 04:36 AM
"you'd also expect them to update the forums in some meaningful way(since they're a growing company) but here we are with the same forums of 08 with only a small visual boost"

Yeah, I know. It's not great. But the forums can live off being broken. Everything in general could improve with just moderation done efficiently and just. Like batman. Gotham is a broken city, we just need a batman to balance it out.
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le_forumer is not online. le_forumer
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25 Jul 2016 04:38 AM
"They could attempt improving their bots considering they are a vastly expanding company"
roblox had a huge server crash in 2014 that costed them over $10 million so hbu give them the money to fund what you want
maybe buy OBC a couple hundred times


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le_forumer is not online. le_forumer
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25 Jul 2016 04:39 AM
also you shouldve posted in ideas and suggestions
just saying


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UnrealizedPotential is not online. UnrealizedPotential
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25 Jul 2016 04:40 AM
in all honesty they should just draft some of the less trashy forum users into a kind of community moderation team
these community mods could report things of actual interest(example:some edgelord comes in and spams the place with various rulebreaking things) and a mod could actually investigate
that or they could just hire more mods in general and have an actual 24/7 mod team
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matutinal is not online. matutinal
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25 Jul 2016 04:40 AM
@top, whatd he do and who is he
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25 Jul 2016 04:41 AM
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Swiftaloon is not online. Swiftaloon
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25 Jul 2016 04:41 AM
"roblox had a huge server crash in 2014 that costed them over $10 million so hbu give them the money to fund what you want"

Having a pristine moderation system would allure/ keep more players on average as they would be more willing to purchase memberships. Just a thought. Not sure why you're taking this thread so seriously as most of it is just based off of my nitpicks of the system.


"maybe buy OBC a couple hundred times"

At least they can make back millions, not everyone is financially able to buy obc, let alone a couple hundred times. I like ramen noodles but they get old every now and then.
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le_forumer is not online. le_forumer
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25 Jul 2016 04:44 AM
"At least they can make back millions, not everyone is financially able to buy obc, let alone a couple hundred times. I like ramen noodles but they get old every now and then."

and not every company is financially able to upgrade their moderation system because of one pissed off kid


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Swiftaloon is not online. Swiftaloon
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25 Jul 2016 04:45 AM
"these community mods could report things of actual interest(example:some edgelord comes in and spams the place with various rulebreaking things) and a mod could actually investigate"

I agree with this idea completely


"that or they could just hire more mods in general and have an actual 24/7 mod team"

This would improve a lot to have a 24/7 mod team
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Swiftaloon is not online. Swiftaloon
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25 Jul 2016 04:46 AM
"and not every company is financially able to upgrade their moderation system because of one pissed off kid"

I'm going to assume you're just a troll considering I never said I was angry in anyway. It could've been picked up I guess through reading in-between the lines, but you're being a bit too aggressive for rational standards. I'm long over losing an account, it's just a personal experience piping into the thread.
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GoreIsOkay is not online. GoreIsOkay
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25 Jul 2016 04:49 AM
Rebel!

https://rabb.it/UnknownShipper
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UnrealizedPotential is not online. UnrealizedPotential
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25 Jul 2016 04:50 AM
honestly they could probably do the community moderation idea
just give the community mods some small incentive(maybe like 2 robux a day) or something and you may end up with a reasonably loyal, professional moderation team that might end up being a 24/7 team since we have so many dudes that just hang around here all day
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le_forumer is not online. le_forumer
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25 Jul 2016 04:50 AM
"I'm going to assume you're just a troll considering I never said I was angry in anyway. It could've been picked up I guess through reading in-between the lines, but you're being a bit too aggressive for rational standards. I'm long over losing an account, it's just a personal experience piping into the thread."

i also lost an account but i hate it when people are asking ROBLOX to do something that would cost ROBLOX hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they dont understand how little amount of ROBLOX makes due to having to maintain the servers, pay the 160+ workers, and deal with all the kids using .dll's to exploit


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Swiftaloon is not online. Swiftaloon
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25 Jul 2016 04:52 AM
Yeah, there are a lot of ideas that could work. The community moderation once is appealing considering the feedback is coming from respected individuals in the community (or just not toxic). Then the teensy tiny 'paycheck' would hopefully keep some from turning into rotten apples.
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ToySackboyLBP2 is not online. ToySackboyLBP2
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25 Jul 2016 04:53 AM
considering widebrutus just PA's everyone who disagrees with him I would say inception is doing the right thing
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Swiftaloon is not online. Swiftaloon
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25 Jul 2016 04:54 AM
"i hate it when people are asking ROBLOX to do something that would cost ROBLOX hundreds of thousands of dollars"

I'm not really asking, just putting my thoughts into the fresh air. If this thread gets dElEtEd that's all on me considering I knowingly broke the rule talking about moderation.
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le_forumer is not online. le_forumer
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25 Jul 2016 04:56 AM
"I'm not really asking, just putting my thoughts into the fresh air. If this thread gets dElEtEd that's all on me considering I knowingly broke the rule talking about moderation."

ok cool, your like the chillest person ever


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