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Re: I believe in Marxism and Communism

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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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23 Jul 2016 10:12 PM
Because I believe that in order to have a true and fair society, we need to make sure that everybody is poor and has to go to a food bank every day to receive dry bread and water, and that all opponents to my political ideology have to spend 50 years in the gulag.


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LagHits is not online. LagHits
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23 Jul 2016 10:14 PM
Agreed, my lo- I mean friend.
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Kirkman667 is not online. Kirkman667
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23 Jul 2016 10:14 PM
you should join uaf they love being in the virtual gulag of having no friends (because commies suck)
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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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23 Jul 2016 10:15 PM
You didn't say "my dear Communist Secretary Slayer"

10 years gulag, hard labour.


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nemanjak is not online. nemanjak
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23 Jul 2016 10:15 PM
That's Stalinism
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ImperialStrategist is not online. ImperialStrategist
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23 Jul 2016 10:16 PM
"The roots of America"
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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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23 Jul 2016 10:16 PM
Which was bred from Lenin's Marxist and Communist ideas, Nemanjak


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ChiefTempest is not online. ChiefTempest
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23 Jul 2016 10:16 PM
I truly believe communism is s a good concept, it's just received bad attention and propaganda, and was performed terribly. Not that I know much of politics.
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KIeos is not online. KIeos
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23 Jul 2016 10:19 PM
communism will never work
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SnoopDogg is not online. SnoopDogg
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23 Jul 2016 10:19 PM
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#Capitalism


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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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23 Jul 2016 10:20 PM
Communism literally cannot work:

a). Human nature, if we are equal, where is my incentive to do better? That's why capitalism is superior and has always brought out the best in humanity.

b). Class conflict. Theoretically, the only way to achieve communism is through socialism, as per Marxism. You cannot take from the well off and give to working class without expecting class conflict. The rich will simply move on too, resulting in a poorer nation over all.

c). Dictatorship. It is necessary for a communist state and dictatorships are rarely benevolent, and always eventually fall into disarray and uprisings.


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nemanjak is not online. nemanjak
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23 Jul 2016 10:23 PM
Stalinism is radical communism, which is radical socialism.

Communism is bad because it's not in human nature to "Take one for the team"
Communism is basically turning humans into ant colonies where the ants will go as far as to die for their colony, but humans will never do such a thing.

Socialism on the other hand is the best possible administration humans could use, Scandinavian nations are an example of socialism.

Capitalism is equally as bad as communism as it watches over the 1% and ignores the 99% while communism turns the 99% into the 100% and then tries to take care of all of them, which is impossible
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KIeos is not online. KIeos
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23 Jul 2016 10:24 PM
yeah capitalism totally ignores the 99%

not like it encourages innovation which everyone enjoys such as glorious iphones
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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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23 Jul 2016 10:26 PM
Scandinavian nations are terrible bar Norway, so that's not the ideal model.

I live in a partially socialist state, the UK. Our health service is clogged and underfunded due to mass immigration (wink wink why we left the EU) and our benefits system is abused heavily. While I agree the principle of socialism can work in minor doses, pure socialism only leads to communism, and only leads to failure.

And please don't pass of Stalinism like it isn't directly influenced by Marxism and Leninism in particular, it is the result of the failed ideology to put it mildly.

Pure capitalism isn't great either, but I'd much prefer living in a pure capitalist society rather than a pure communist one.


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nemanjak is not online. nemanjak
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23 Jul 2016 10:33 PM
If you believe socialism always leads to communism, you're truly not educated enough in the ideologies to have a proper discussion about them.
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KIeos is not online. KIeos
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23 Jul 2016 10:34 PM
sounds like you're too afraid to have a proper discussion about them cause you are dumb
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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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23 Jul 2016 10:43 PM
"If you believe socialism always leads to communism, you're truly not educated enough in the ideologies to have a proper discussion about them."

I said pure socialism, and I didn't say always. Nice strawman.


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KeI_Thuzad is not online. KeI_Thuzad
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23 Jul 2016 10:47 PM
RUSH B, GO GULAG CYKA BLYAT IDI NAHUI BLIN


|Kel'Thuzad loves orange soda|
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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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23 Jul 2016 10:48 PM
"RUSH B, GO GULAG CYKA BLYAT IDI NAHUI BLIN"

I also watch Life of Boris


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