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Re: Liberals are too stupid in my opinion.

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Rakota is not online. Rakota
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Rakota is not online. Rakota
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22 Jul 2016 03:56 PM
Does anyone agree? Hillary is going to sell the country out to Wall Street and leave the borders open because all her supporters are delusional liberals who think world peace is achievable and we just need to flood our country with migrants.
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CrimsonForce is online. CrimsonForce
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22 Jul 2016 03:56 PM
bernie>trump>hillary
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Rakota is not online. Rakota
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22 Jul 2016 03:57 PM
Bernie is already out of it so you should support Trump. He understands the importance of the rule of law and enforcing our immigration policies.
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CrimsonForce is online. CrimsonForce
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22 Jul 2016 03:58 PM
yes that is what im doin
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andrewdevs is not online. andrewdevs
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22 Jul 2016 04:01 PM
some conservatives are dumb, too. they just both piss me off.

I'm not supporting Trump, I'm supporting Jill Stein and Gary Johnson (though I'm Libertarian, Gary Johnson is horrible); however, if neither of them make it to the debates, I'd support Trump, but the thought of having another conservative in the SCOTUS for years scares me.
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Rakota is not online. Rakota
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22 Jul 2016 04:04 PM
I don't really consider myself conservative or liberal. But I like Trump.
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andrewdevs is not online. andrewdevs
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22 Jul 2016 04:05 PM
I mean he's ok. I feel like I'd like other Republican's policies more, but he's very progressive, which would a primary reason I'd support
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PlatinumPatriot is not online. PlatinumPatriot
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22 Jul 2016 04:06 PM
*waits for wannabet*


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ZacharyClif is not online. ZacharyClif
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22 Jul 2016 04:16 PM
Every country should be conscious of immigration, but it should be our duty to help human beings fleeing from possible death. Ideally we want to help people in-need (that is what it means to be human), but you have to be concerned about who you let in, as some third-world governments do not have a register for their citizens.

Liberalism isn't about letting people in with no threshold. The basic principles are about Liberty and equality for everyone. In an idealized world, that is what everyone should desire. If everyone was treated equally, there would be no 'real' justification in starting conflicts. However, there is no 'perfect' system; there never will be and the main source of all these problematic "immigration crisis's" in certain regions such as the Middle East all spawned off our own governments anyway.

I love my country, but a lot of Britain's recent Governments have been driven by money and inconsiderate greed. It was partially my country's fault for some world-problems, and it should be our duty to sort these things out as a European-leading society.
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22 Jul 2016 04:17 PM
lol i sort of got distracted a bit there
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Rakota is not online. Rakota
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22 Jul 2016 04:18 PM
Actually our government didn't cause those people to become violent. They are responsible for their own actions.
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22 Jul 2016 04:26 PM
When the US and UK Military's intervened in Iraq (which wasn't on a completely factual basis) they set up temporary 'holds' for Iraqi citizens. You will discover that the hierarchy of groups such as the IsIamic States actually met in those holds. After the Iraqi Government was defeated, we introduced our own democratic system into these countries, along with implemented governments. We shouldn't have tried to position our modern ideologies there. We are two polar-opposite cultures, so of course, a lot of people were upset. These groups are awful. That is blatant. But one basis they fight on is to unite the Iraqi and Levant states together. The whole region wouldn't be in such a fragmented state if we hadn't intervened in the first place.

Although, considering the way Saddam's regime was going, he would have likely invaded more regions (in return igniting more conflict.)
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Rakota is not online. Rakota
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22 Jul 2016 04:28 PM
We should not invite people in who have such different ideologies from us.
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22 Jul 2016 04:31 PM
The fact that they are fleeing from War is reason enough to let them stay. I know plenty of people with Middle-Eastern background that have settled perfectly well in the UK. I think your arguments are very vague, and you have not really considering the other factors.

I am not implying that we should let everyone enter in a 'Oh hey, come on in!' manner. But it is obvious that is would not be morally correct to ignore the problem, and to not do anything when we need to admit our governments did play a role.
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22 Jul 2016 04:31 PM
heh L.MF.AO DUMB LIBTURDS XDDDXXDDD LM..FAO WHY SHUD PPL HAVE WELFARE XDDDX LOL GET A JOB U BUMS XDDDD
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Rakota is not online. Rakota
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22 Jul 2016 04:32 PM
There are other countries they can go to that are not in Europe.

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22 Jul 2016 04:34 PM
"We should not invite people in who have such different ideologies from us."

are you high
there are 318 million people in the us
we do not all share anything close to the same ideology
get your r***** isolationism out of here, before you end up causing another world war


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Rakota is not online. Rakota
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22 Jul 2016 04:35 PM
Idiot.

We have a centralized school system and free market capitalism. We share the same culture with all 318 million people.
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22 Jul 2016 04:36 PM
because conservatives are any less stupid


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Rakota is not online. Rakota
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22 Jul 2016 04:36 PM
These "refugees" don't speak our language and have none of the skills to assimilate into an industrialized market economy.
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Rakota is not online. Rakota
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22 Jul 2016 04:37 PM
You can go anywhere in the USA and you will be able to communicate with people.

At least you used to be able to before all the immigrants started flooding in.
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22 Jul 2016 04:38 PM
"There are other countries they can go to that are not in Europe."

Your whole argument is based on some xenophobic tendency. You don't really care about the situation, just your own welfare. It seems that as long as it isn't YOUR problem, it isn't a problem at all.
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22 Jul 2016 04:38 PM
Ah, yes a common misconcep-


nevermind you're right who can trust hi-


*your account has been banned from this site*


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ImperialOutcast is not online. ImperialOutcast
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22 Jul 2016 04:39 PM
@ ZacharyClif


This entire thread has been nothing but complete idiocy by your part. You are such a moron I can't even stand it, let me correct your failures of language at attempting to defend a pathetic and indecent party.


The United States has been known since its creation date, that we are a nation of immigrants. That being said, we have always forced individuals to go through the proper channels in coming here. To not ask individuals to abide by our policy and freely come over here is in-itself: a direct threat to our national security.

We shouldn't be accepting refugees into the country when our own president doesn't take the precaution of where these individuals are coming from, which is in-fact war driven areas. To further add to my statement, within these "refugees" are implanted individuals who are working for terrorist organizations. Our own government branches have confirmed this (FBI) and yet we still do nothing but allow them to come in unchecked.

If we are going to allow individuals into our country, we must place the safety of our citizens above those that are foreign. And to do so is to implement proper border control and do background checks, which is something our government isn't doing.

Until such time arises in which we start doing checks on people that are entering our country as refugee's and stopping illegal immigrants from crossing the border, the United States will be a nation that of insecurity. We have forgotten our most valid points within society:

A nation that cannot control its borders is not a nation.
-Ronald Reagen


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