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| 21 Jul 2016 06:59 AM |
Know that Posting, or Even Reading this information is an immensely Risky Thing to do. I will be Cutting some people off from Potentially Making a LOT of money with this, and they will be VERY upset to put it Mildly, But I couldn't sit by. I had to Let you people know the Details and keep yourselves safe. It is also something I have Been working on for my Ph.D. I am still Working on it, But I got most of the Things worked out. Soon, I will Teach people English in universities. Not for Any Selfish Motivation a la Greed, but because I wish to Share my Wisdom with others. This is by no Means a Brag, I am, simply put, a Good Person. If I was a greedy Person with Money as his Goal, I would not Even attempt to be a Professor in the first place. This is a Job that does not pay well. It is Solely for people that want to help Others, like being a Charity Worker that works for free in War-Torn lands. Actually I'd say it's more Good than that. Anyway, Now that you Know me Somewhat, I will skip to the Main Subject.
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As you may Know, Many "Strategy" [strategy in quotes] games have a LOT of DLCs. Look at Paradox' Horse Armor DLC's, for instance. These are nearly Comparable to Microtransactions in, say, FarmVille and such. With 100+ DLC's, Paradox' Kingdom Hearts is a big cash grab and it SHOWS.
But this is not the Only Thing... For instance, a more recent game They have released, "Hearts of Iron 4" is horribly Casualized, no doubt to Sucker in More Players. Same Route Bethesda went. An already simple Strategy Game being SIMPLIFIED even MORE. Really? A Strategy Game must always go deeper and deeper... simplifying a Strategy Game shouldn't even be CONSIDERED.
There is also the "Warhammer: Something" game. This Casual Game has ALSO been casualized even more AND evne though it was Released around a Month ago, already has 5 DLCs. One DLC was day-one. That thing was Already in the Game, you just pay for the Privilege of Unlocking it. The other DLCs? Races. These should have been in the Game in the First Place, of course, considering the game Launched with an Abysmal 3 Races. Pathetic. Steam Stats shows that They stole 50k USD easily from these DLCs. Speaking of Warhammer, none of the Warhammer games are Strategy games. A "Real-Time Strategy game" CAN NOT exist, for EVERY RTS needs to Sacrifice depth for it to be Viable. Also known as "Catering to Casuals", or "Casualization". If every top-down game Where you command units is a Strategy game, then XCOM would be called a Strategy game as well, but it's not.
There is also Civilization VI. While this Game Series has always been "Pseudo-Strategic", so to speak, as in It was Always Made for Casuals, they went to a Whole New World with Civ VI. The Graphics. My GOD... They have declined a GARGANTUAN amount, to say the LEAST. It looks like some Mobile AoE rip-off With Gems you need to buy to Win the game. They have FAILED on that Aspect. You may say, "in a strategy game, graphics are not important". If you were talking about a Truly Strategic game such as, say, Dominions, Undertale, Battle Bugs or Conquest of Elysium (none of these games have any DLCs btw), I would understand, however, in this case, This is wrong. The Civ series were never a "Depth-First" Series, and therefore not Truly Strategy games. They always strived to Welcome Casuals for the Sake of Depth. In a game Like this, Graphics are Immensely Important. They have FAILED.
Let us go back a Few Years. To the Board Games. Casual Ones, such as "Chess". "Checkers". "Reversi", even. These are all Horribly Casual Games with little Amount of Thinking. It is all About who Remembers the Most Copy-Paste Strategies. No Room for Innovation at all, and little Possibilities for anything. You move things around a Piece of Plastic. Limits your Thinking, limits your Creativity. Makes you Complacent, never Thinking outside the Box, whereas games such as Dominions 4 always keeps you on your Toes, you never know what May happen... ON YOUR LAST TURN!!! You Think it will be easy... then you Get the Ancient Presence event, Your Population is Annihilated and somehow ur Pretender dies and your Army is dead too because You happened to have the Horror Harmonica then the Horrors by chance didn't attack the Enemy and attacked you instead resulting in your Death... and eventually lose. In this game, You must think about every Possibility lest you Lose your Queen of Elemental Water to a freak accident. Even these old-fashioned Board Games have DLCs, such as Pieces you have to Buy, etc. Useless. I'm not even going into Card Games, they're a scam and Casual beyond Belief.
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Your friend, the Anonymous. "[For a Person That cares Enought about the Future, and is Motivated, and determined enought to Not Buy piece of crap Cash Grabs, nothing is Impossible and no one can stand Before him, not even the Company that Churned it out]" ~[Agent 24985].
We are Anonymous, Except us. |
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tnt91
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| 21 Jul 2016 07:01 AM |
No... This is indeed all true... My God... We... We are onto some DARK days... Please...
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| 21 Jul 2016 07:03 AM |
| A shorter version. It says "Startegy games have way too many DLCs there a cash grab ripoff scams and Civilzaton was always a piece of trash and now they made the Graphics look like a ripoff Mobile piece of junk" |
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| 21 Jul 2016 07:54 AM |
"and now they made the Graphics look like a ripoff Mobile piece of junk"
art > realism |
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tnt91
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| 21 Jul 2016 08:00 AM |
@cute: You obviously Skipped the rest of it. Go read the End of that Part in complete.
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| 21 Jul 2016 08:01 AM |
| i am not gonna read a super long thread |
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tnt91
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| 21 Jul 2016 08:03 AM |
Then we have nothing to Discuss. I already addressed all of the Stuff You said there.
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DoctorDEW
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| 21 Jul 2016 09:08 AM |
I think that the argument with Civ is kind of weak. I mean, yes, the graphics for the new Civ VI are much more cartoonish than the previous Civ games. But that doesn't mean it's less playable. More realistic graphics are nice, but I don't believe that they take away from the playability of it, and I most certainly would not call Civ VI "not a strategy game". The game hasn't even come out yet; it's hard to judge a game like that. Also, the strategy element of the game should be based on more core dynamics than graphics. Civ has managed to nail down great mechanics as far as units go, an enjoyable and competitive multiplayer mode, and an effective difficulty scale.
I've played over 700 hours of Civ V and and personally looking forward to Civ VI with open arms. One of the fun things about Civ is that you have historical context with each individual civilization, but there's no set scenario in each specific game. It lets you come up with these crazy stories or fantasies about "what could have happened" in history, in a more casual and relaxed way. At the same time, if you'd like, you can bump up the difficulty and enjoy a brain-vexing match. |
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| 21 Jul 2016 09:14 AM |
@doctor: I can easily judge the Graphics considering it looks disgusting.
I ALREADY addressed this, too. I'll copy and paste it.
"You may say, "in a strategy game, graphics are not important". If you were talking about a Truly Strategic game such as, say, Dominions, Undertale, Battle Bugs or Conquest of Elysium (none of these games have any DLCs btw), I would understand, however, in this case, This is wrong. The Civ series were never a "Depth-First" Series, and therefore not Truly Strategy games. They always strived to Welcome Casuals for the Sake of Depth. In a game Like this, Graphics are Immensely Important. They have FAILED."
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| 21 Jul 2016 12:52 PM |
50k... The first Hours... My God... I am sorry, but I have to Bump this for awareness. It is your Choice.
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| 21 Jul 2016 01:01 PM |
| this post is basically whining about new strategy games because "the graphics must mean it's simple" I had my doubts about hoi4 just like op and i just bought it recently and it's more like hoi2 than anything which im pretty sure this guy thinks is a masterpiece judging by the post. civ 6 if anything is going to be like civ5 with more content added and personally i like the graphics |
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| 21 Jul 2016 01:03 PM |
| I'm disregarding this thread entirely because you think undertale has more strategic value than hoi4 and civ and you think chess is "casual" |
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| 22 Jul 2016 02:08 AM |
@old: You obviously didn't Read it. I actually said the very opposite thing: All of the Strategy games that have any Focus on 3D graphics sacrifices depth for Being more Welcoming towards Casuals. I have also stated that Civ 5 is not a Strategy Game, it's casual. HoI4 is immensely simpler than HoI3 and that is impossible to Deny.
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| 22 Jul 2016 02:31 PM |
| or you're just too close minded to accept that games can have 3d graphics and still be strategic. how does graphics affect the gameplay at all? calling civ 5 not strategy is wrong by definition and purely subjective. have you ever even played hoi4 or civ5? Streamlining a game is NOT simplifying it |
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Dubrava
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| 22 Jul 2016 02:34 PM |
| tnt we already know you crapposted this on your alt so can you stop |
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| 22 Jul 2016 02:51 PM |
| command and conquer or gtfo |
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Excilium
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| 22 Jul 2016 03:13 PM |
some samefriending your thread
we know op is you
stop this bad attempt at trolling too
ph.d? teaching english? please, roach, cut the crap
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tnt91
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| 23 Jul 2016 09:22 AM |
@old: Streamlining = Simplifying. Play HoI3 and compare it to HoI4. I played Civ4 and it was horribly Casual.
Compare these to Dominions or even Conquest of Elysium and see how both companies are going for Casuals, only caring about Sale Numbers and nothing more.
@dub: Very perceptive. It's indeed my other account. I was on it and couldn't Bother ot change
@excilium: I can't believe I have to break this Down for people, but: The first part is a Joke. The Teaching English part is not. I indeed want to be an English Professor
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| 23 Jul 2016 09:24 AM |
BTW The main point in this Wall of Text is how casual "Strategy" Game developers see their Audience as morons and Attempt to Milk them out of Every Penny by making hundreds of piece of crap DLCs and how that should change. Calling any of the "Strategy" games I listed a Hardcore Strategy game would be lying blatantly.
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| 23 Jul 2016 10:18 AM |
Strategy games aren't the only ones that pump out a lot of DLC's. Just look at train simulator and you'll see what i mean.
While i do agree that many strategy games are casualized, isn't it always that bad as it just means more people who are new to these kind of games, enjoy it. It's also a market scheme where the developers completetly ignores all the hardcore players of the game (which is usually the minority) and makes it easier so more people can enjoy the game and give them more money.
https://www.roblox.com/My-reaction-to-this-item?id=217122744 |
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| 23 Jul 2016 12:46 PM |
''I want to be an English teacher''
>number of grammar and punctuation mistakes
>prose and run-on sentences galore
>useless information that has nothing to do with the topic
>text looks like some 9-y/o pn Deviantart wrote it
>a bunch of words where only one couldve been enough
Sorry, i doubt it will happen.
Also, how is Undertale a strategy game, but Civ isnt?
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Dubrava
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| 23 Jul 2016 01:22 PM |
"Very perceptive"
I don't need a degree in rocket science to figure out it's you after all You Randomly Capitalize your Words |
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| 23 Jul 2016 01:33 PM |
@riki: I don'T care about Petty Matters such as the Grammer on the Internet, I adapt according to my Environment, and on the Internet The Point is posting Fast. As long as People Understand my posts, That is Adequate. I Had Only Two incorrect answers in my country's "Get-Points-for-University" test and I failed one question just because I didn't know that all Bollywood movies were Cheerful and involved Colorful outfits, rather than Ignorance of the English Language.
The Undertale part was to see if anyone Read that Part. Even then, If we go by the "Civilization is a Strategy Game", or the "RTS Games are Strategic" mentality, I can easily say that Undertale is a better Strategy game than Civilization because you think about Moving Up, Down, Left or Right according to the Attacks. All you do on Civilization is randomly send units to the Enemy. It's kind of like Rock Paper Scissors.
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| 23 Jul 2016 01:41 PM |
| Civilization VI will take some getting used to |
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| 25 Jul 2016 05:25 AM |
>i dun car bout grammer on ze internetz xD
>wants to be english professor
have you ever heard about cyanide, roach?
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