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VisualSights is not online. VisualSights
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17 Jul 2016 02:36 PM
Hey dudes anyway to prevent VS from winning a server we'll do it!


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KryptedX is not online. KryptedX
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17 Jul 2016 02:37 PM
How does it show server lag? If it was random's computer lagging, then I understand but he doesn't freeze during the video neither does the people around him.

So saying it is server lag isn't exactly accurate. And regardless if it was server lag he wouldn't of died in "1 shot". He literally went from 100 health to 0 BEHIND cover. Please explain how that makes sense in anyway.


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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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17 Jul 2016 02:38 PM
@Krypted

Okay and what I said does not go against that war term? That video is subjective - you can't decipher whether it is lag switching or server lag. In fact, there is no evidence in that video that an individual was lag switching.

I'm not trying to justify if there was a lag switcher, but the way RAT dealt with the situation is wrong and VS should be awarded the win. Invalidating the server is just pointless.
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Callibre is not online. Callibre
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17 Jul 2016 02:39 PM
That's happened to me many times, I've peaked and immediately died and like a second or two later all of the raycast will hit me. The server can't handle everyone else fighting and then 4 people shooting one person so that's probably why it seems like LS.
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u_ndecrypted is not online. u_ndecrypted
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17 Jul 2016 02:39 PM
this is extremely dumb from you shinedown lol this could've been server lag and you assume its a lagswitch smh


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OwneD1991 is not online. OwneD1991
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17 Jul 2016 02:40 PM
I think most of you underestimate how difficult it is to distinguish who is LS'ing in a room full of 10 raiders that are behind cover. This type of thing happened everytime we were prepared to rush & when we popped to rush, our players were going from 100 -> 0 HP.

Call server lag if you wish, but if you truly had an unbiased POV on these types of things, you would obviously see that this is LAGSWITCHING.


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u_ndecrypted is not online. u_ndecrypted
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17 Jul 2016 02:40 PM
plus people use discord (vs) which could lead to ingame lag i doubt anyone is dumb enough to ls when we literally had the term locked down


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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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17 Jul 2016 02:40 PM
Just because you don't freeze doesn't mean you aren't experiencing lag? Server lag oftentimes doesn't freeze you, the individual.

Again, the video does not show any lag switching.

If RAT shut the server down after that, then it would be more acceptable. If RAT says that lag switching was such a large problem, then why wait until there are 10 seconds left in the server to shutdown?

It just seems wrong and VS should be awarded the win.
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Cipheraxz is not online. Cipheraxz
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17 Jul 2016 02:40 PM
I was the lagger on the RAT team, my computer is awful. Wasn't Mr Apron Boy.


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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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17 Jul 2016 02:41 PM
This looks like lag experienced by the ROBLOX player, not a lagswitcher. The delayed raycast bolts at 3 seconds seems to indicate that this is the case.
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DominusRobloxia is not online. DominusRobloxia
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17 Jul 2016 02:41 PM
Jesus war barely started and this happens.
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drink_anime is not online. drink_anime
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17 Jul 2016 02:42 PM
you know i'd like to see his control+f5 stats

to determine if he wasn't the one lagging

i mean i've had that happen to me before which is me dying behind a wall, but after checking that I realize it is me the one who is lagging..


is there by any chance a bigger video?


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Callibre is not online. Callibre
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17 Jul 2016 02:42 PM
"Call server lag if you wish, but if you truly had an unbiased POV on these types of things, you would obviously see that this is LAGSWITCHING."

Yes that is a totally unbiased opinion from someone who has nothing to gain from the server being invalidated.
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killer9094 is not online. killer9094
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17 Jul 2016 02:42 PM
FoA beat RAT 30-4


Sentrys is the greatest // add 1k
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Hare8901 is not online. Hare8901
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17 Jul 2016 02:42 PM
"our players were going from 100 -> 0 HP."

thats called getting destroyed by 10 raiders
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drew6670 is not online. drew6670
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17 Jul 2016 02:42 PM
By the point in which I got into the server RAT had no chance at winning we had the term on lockdown. I did not see anyone on my team lagswitching we had no point to do it.
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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17 Jul 2016 02:42 PM
@Owned

Even if it is lag switching, RAT handled the situation poorly. If lag switching was such a prevalent issue, then RAT should have shut the server down way before it did.

Waiting 10 seconds before a Raider victory (With tons of Raiders in the term room, meaning RAT wasn't going to get it) just makes RAT look like they are avoiding a loss/playing unfairly.

Lag switchers should be kicked, at all times. Servers should not be shutdown - lag switching does not affect the integrity of the server.

Now, if RAT had an issue with identifying a lag switcher (Which you claim to have had), then I can see a justification for shutting the server down. That video shows it at 6 minutes - RAT didn't shutdown until 10 seconds left.

That should be a VS victory.
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Callibre is not online. Callibre
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17 Jul 2016 02:42 PM
"our players were going from 100 -> 0 HP."

thats called getting destroyed by 10 raiders[2]
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kelsters101 is not online. kelsters101
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17 Jul 2016 02:43 PM
its really scummy to shutdown a server 3 seconds before victory, a win should be given.


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eduardo4321 is not online. eduardo4321
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17 Jul 2016 02:45 PM
Give them the win dont be cheaters
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KryptedX is not online. KryptedX
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17 Jul 2016 02:46 PM
@Nederlandz

"Whether VS lag switched or not (I do not support what may have occurred), as an outsider, that video is subjective.

If RAT shut the server down after that it would have made a lot more sense, but waiting until 10 seconds left (With tons of Raiders in the terminal room) to shutdown is unfair for the Raiders.

Additionally, lag switchers should be kicked - they do not affect the integrity of the server (Meaning shutdowns shouldn't occur)."

How can you complain about us waiting to confirm the lag switch before shutting down?

So what you're saying is when the person complained about VS lag switching an admin should of shut it down and if they didn't have viable proof then what? I think it was smart to wait for confirmation of the lag switch before shutting it down.

[INV] Exploiting, glitching, and cheating of any way, shape, or form is strictly prohibited, flinging included. Any victories gained with the usage of these exploits will be invalidated and the offending party or parties will be banned.

"@Krypted

Okay and what I said does not go against that war term? That video is subjective - you can't decipher whether it is lag switching or server lag. In fact, there is no evidence in that video that an individual was lag switching.

I'm not trying to justify if there was a lag switcher, but the way RAT dealt with the situation is wrong and VS should be awarded the win. Invalidating the server is just pointless."


It was a lag switch, it is clear that someone saw random peak out, enabled their program, or plugged out their router, and proceeded to lagswitch. And I say again the war term was already agreed upon.

[INV] Exploiting, glitching, and cheating of any way, shape, or form is strictly prohibited, flinging included. Any victories gained with the usage of these exploits will be invalidated and the offending party or parties will be banned.



@Falsewarrior

"This looks like lag experienced by the ROBLOX player, not a lagswitcher. The delayed raycast bolts at 3 seconds seems to indicate that this is the case."

You're extremely dense. If you want to analyze the video, slow it down to .25 and watch the WHOLE thing. Randomletterspam was shooting at someone that was BEHIND a wall. If you closely watch the video, by the time Random was behind the wall (as he turned his screen), you can clearly see NO ONE popped out to shoot him. ROBLOX player lag or not doesn't take 4-5 seconds to clear up. It is blatantly a lagswitch.



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OwneD1991 is not online. OwneD1991
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17 Jul 2016 02:47 PM
@Nederlandz

I'm sorry but we are not going to shutdown a server until we have solid proof of the lagswitching that was occuring.

The LS may have happened at 6 minutes but we did not receive the proof from the individual until the last 30 seconds.

This was CONSISTENTLY happening throughout the time that the bomb was planted and we could not identify the person that was doing the LS'ing.

No matter what you believe should have been done, these are war terms that VS agreed on, as the commanding officer of that server, I was just enforcing the terms.


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KryptedX is not online. KryptedX
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17 Jul 2016 02:47 PM
"thats called getting destroyed by 10 raiders[2]"

Yes 10 raiders fit behind that one wall to kill randomletterspam. Good logic.


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Cipheraxz is not online. Cipheraxz
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17 Jul 2016 02:47 PM
It's funny, because he wasnt the only one who experienced this...

There were at least 2 other people who got killed behind walls smh........


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drink_anime is not online. drink_anime
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17 Jul 2016 02:47 PM
is there a bigger video to show by any chance?


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