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Proof of VS lagswitching already

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Shinedown204 is not online. Shinedown204
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17 Jul 2016 02:29 PM
https://gyazo.com/f0f3230c87f909211494952457f21eff

Reason for our shutdown. Any acts of cheating and exploiting will result in an invalidated server as agreed by VS.
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Shinedown204 is not online. Shinedown204
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17 Jul 2016 02:30 PM
Actual video of the lagswitch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldQs8FyVPJA&feature=youtu.be
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OwneD1991 is not online. OwneD1991
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17 Jul 2016 02:31 PM
Extremely sad people are hopping on the 'RAT cheating' bandwagon before even seeing the proof.


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Heydude261 is online. Heydude261
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17 Jul 2016 02:31 PM
disappointing as usual


( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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god_arshdeep is not online. god_arshdeep
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17 Jul 2016 02:31 PM
I think it wouldn't be too difficult to single out the individuals that lag switch.


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hockeychris11 is not online. hockeychris11
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17 Jul 2016 02:31 PM
The time until the bomb is done there is like 6:00min.


You shut it down at 10 seconds. Why the wait?
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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17 Jul 2016 02:32 PM
Could you upload it to youtube so I can start and pause the video at my leisure, sir?
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Callibre is not online. Callibre
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17 Jul 2016 02:32 PM
That angle is easy to shoot and we had 4 people on the side to shoot at Sevson.

I've spoke to two of your HRs and explained how that happened. I remember shooting Sevson with 3 other people when he peaked. It does look pretty bad in that video but theres a lagger on the RAT team, whether it is Sevson or not is another discussion but I'm pretty sure he was the lagger and that's why it makes it seem like he was LS'd.

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OwneD1991 is not online. OwneD1991
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17 Jul 2016 02:32 PM
'The time until the bomb is done there is like 6:00min.


You shut it down at 10 seconds. Why the wait?'

Things were extremely hectic in Teamspeak and we were making sure we had solid video evidence before we took any action.

KDG & I were the commanding officers in that server.


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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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17 Jul 2016 02:33 PM
if lag switching was such a big issue, then the server should have been shut down there rather than waiting for a raider victory

in my personal opinion, rat should grant the raider team a victory

also, lag switching does not actually affect the integrity of a server, meaning they should be kicked (and the server should not be shutdown).

if a server was to be shutdown due to lag switching, the only real circumstance i can see that for is lets say rat rushed the terminal and was going to cap and the lag switcher saved it

however, pauls screenshot (at 10 seconds) shows that there were plenty of raiders at the terminal, meaning vs should be granted a victory
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VisualSights is not online. VisualSights
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17 Jul 2016 02:33 PM
Sometimes when I lag, everyone stays frozen for a good 4-5 seconds and that's enough time to kill someone

But oh whale


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JesusPenguin is not online. JesusPenguin
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17 Jul 2016 02:33 PM
I really hope this war stays clean. If it doesn't all the more reason to plan my near retirement and quitting.
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KryptedX is not online. KryptedX
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17 Jul 2016 02:33 PM
He peaked out for a second, no one shot at him, then he went behind cover, where he then died. I don't see how four people could shoot at him if he's behind cover.


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Shinedown204 is not online. Shinedown204
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17 Jul 2016 02:34 PM
His HP went 100 to 0 when being behind cover, you can slow down the video in motion and see for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldQs8FyVPJA&feature=youtu.be
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r_y is not online. r_y
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17 Jul 2016 02:34 PM
Lol just because Neder has to be a dumb ass I'm gonna join RAT
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VisualSights is not online. VisualSights
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17 Jul 2016 02:34 PM
I don't think you get the part where i said 'frozen'


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Shinedown204 is not online. Shinedown204
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17 Jul 2016 02:34 PM
This wasn't the only instance they lagswitched, but this is the only we caught them doing it.
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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17 Jul 2016 02:35 PM
@Krypted

Okay but the video does not even show a person lag switching, it shows at most server lag.

You cannot see any individual that is frozen, gaining a kill, and then moving again. How can someone viewing this video decipher between server lag or lag switching?
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Callibre is not online. Callibre
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17 Jul 2016 02:35 PM
He peaked and got shot by me, Paul, Garzen and someone else. I remember him peaking out and getting lit up.

That entire video can easily look like a lag switch by lagging for 2-3 seconds. I wouldn't be surprised if the raycast that came after he died are delayed raycasts from the lag of the server or his client.
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Shinedown204 is not online. Shinedown204
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17 Jul 2016 02:35 PM
I don't know why you guys are supporting a cheating act, when many of you bash RAT for doing the same.
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KryptedX is not online. KryptedX
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17 Jul 2016 02:35 PM
@nederlandz

[INV] Exploiting, glitching, and cheating of any way, shape, or form is strictly prohibited, flinging included. Any victories gained with the usage of these exploits will be invalidated and the offending party or parties will be banned.

That was a war term that VORTEX SECURITY posted so they clearly agreed to it.


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hockeychris11 is not online. hockeychris11
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17 Jul 2016 02:35 PM
From what I hear OwneD is that KDG was also LS'ing, sure there's been no proof but I do find it interesting that VS throws some of the same claims at one of your commanding officers.

And it only takes a little while to upload a video, I find it beyond convenient this happened when you were about to lose, and it seems like the server was shutdown at your own convenience rather than a reaction to someone who was LS'ing.
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VisualSights is not online. VisualSights
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17 Jul 2016 02:35 PM
Exactly what Nederlandz said, I honestly don't see anyone that is frozen


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Callibre is not online. Callibre
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17 Jul 2016 02:36 PM
What Ned said is exactly what I mean, you can't just shutdown a server when it could of been the lag on his end or lag on the server end.

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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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17 Jul 2016 02:36 PM
@Shine

Whether VS lag switched or not (I do not support what may have occurred), as an outsider, that video is subjective.

If RAT shut the server down after that it would have made a lot more sense, but waiting until 10 seconds left (With tons of Raiders in the terminal room) to shutdown is unfair for the Raiders.

Additionally, lag switchers should be kicked - they do not affect the integrity of the server (Meaning shutdowns shouldn't occur).
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