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| 12 Jul 2016 11:15 AM |
she's trying so hard to make her economic side appealing and she's just getting it completely wrong
when she gets criticism for her plans about free college and increased min wage she dismisses all of the claims as "voodoo economics"
the fact that she said she'll do more with the economy in the first 100 days since any president since WW2 scares the living hell out of me |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:17 AM |
| my mom let me buy an ar15 before she becomes president |
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Devin5134
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:18 AM |
| well her economic plan is much better than those of trump's unless you happen to be a really rich person or a corporation that isnt too dependent on trade |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:18 AM |
its either trump or hillary.
go trump i guess. |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:18 AM |
| i'd go for foreign guns first, those'll be the first purchases to be cut off if they aren't already |
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amoeba
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:19 AM |
People don't seem to realize hillary has legitimate federal crimes under her belt and american blood on her hands.
FIRST GURL PREZ THOUGH, U GUIS |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:21 AM |
@biood
foreign guns cost more money
money I don't wanna spend rn I got think college next year |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:22 AM |
trump's plans would have less effect tbh
unless he tries to bring some tariffs into effect then it'll probably have a bigger effect
hillary's MAY work if she wasn't so against coal mining and american energy independence, without that i doubt she's going to be able to get the necessary funds to do what she plans without impacting the economy. |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:23 AM |
| hillary is cringeworthy in general |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:24 AM |
| shes also hiring assassins to kill people who had access to the emails lmao |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:24 AM |
dont speak out ghost
the barbells will find you and accidentally fall on your neck |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:25 AM |
she also has partnership with the chinese so...
the chinese would take over america if hillary becomes president. |
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Sumoses
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:25 AM |
trump vs hillary good thing i dont live in murica |
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Devin5134
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:26 AM |
what do you mean trump's plan would have less effect?
his economic stances include giving the rich comparatively much larger tax breaks, removing or lowering the financial protection low wage earners have and dismantling dott-frank to enable financial institutions to accrue more power than they had pre subprime mortgage crisis
not to mention, there is consensus among economists that his plan will force the government to run astounding deficit since it would be impossible to pay for all of the publicly funded programs with the amount of money thatll be coming in. deficits so large in fact, that cancelling the military altogether wouldnt be enough for the govt to break even. |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:26 AM |
im waiting on trump to meet with economists like he said he would
because some of his plans are meh and need reform badly
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:31 AM |
Hillary is trash.
https://www.roblox.com/My/Groups.aspx?gid=2586975 in-dev atm |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:33 AM |
his economic stances include giving the rich comparatively much larger tax breaks, removing or lowering the financial protection low wage earners have and dismantling dott-frank to enable financial institutions to accrue more power than they had pre subprime mortgage crisis
- the tax cuts for the rich is one of the policies i dont get why he's throwing out, i'll have to look into it further. as far as dodd frank goes you could argue that the further statism on the housing market (specifically freddie and frannie) played a major role into creating the bubble in the first place. i'd listen if someone proposed an up-to-date version and give it thought, but leaving something from over 70 years ago that most likely caused the bubble in the first place sounds outrageous to me.
not to mention, there is consensus among economists that his plan will force the government to run astounding deficit since it would be impossible to pay for all of the publicly funded programs with the amount of money thatll be coming in. deficits so large in fact, that cancelling the military altogether wouldnt be enough for the govt to break even.
- yes i agree. my main focus is lowering the debt or at least stagnating it, and neither candidate seems to have a real solution. |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:35 AM |
| but i mean really the fed reserve was the biggest factor in the bubble since they cut interest at probably the worst time possible |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:36 AM |
| could u give me website links that include trumps economic plans and hillarys websites so i can compare the two and come out with an educated estimate on who has better plans please? |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:39 AM |
the clinton administration screwed up by making it excessively easier for buyers by lowering requirements while everyone was pushing for the low-credit distopia
and then the bush administration screwed up by not paying attention to the market period
then there's the 500000000000000000000 factors that lead to it
the US economy is so complicated it takes a lot of teamwork to screw it over so im not going to blame it on one person/law/entity |
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Devin5134
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:42 AM |
'as far as dodd frank goes you could argue that the further statism on the housing market (specifically freddie and frannie) played a major role into creating the bubble in the first place.'
no you can not. i study this subject in university. people can blame the government for not effectively enforcing its policy to prevent this from happening, or say that its bailouts later attributed to a 'too big to fail mentality' (they can't say that the bailouts won't work anymore since it did), but no one can say that it was the government that made crisis happen. that would be like saying that a police officer is responsible for the murder he failed to prevent. i dont want to be rewriting the essay ive written for this subject at school, but the issue was essentially that cdos (which enabled corporate furloughing of repayment and responsibilities) were crap and they were not directly labeled as such since the credit rating agencies who ranked cdos also received payment from the financial sector
' yes i agree. my main focus is lowering the debt or at least stagnating it, and neither candidate seems to have a real solution.'
yes, but one is literally running so much deficit that even cancelling the military wont be enough to repay it and hilary is nowhere near on that level. |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:42 AM |
@draco
honestly i would say to go off their sites but they're most likely "prettied up" to look appealing and are misleading on both sides
you're gonna have to do a lot of digging and comparing different sources to come up with a general consensus on what's better in your vision
from what i've seen hillary wants to turn the economy towards benefiting the common person at the sake of the massive fossil fuel economy in america that is currently growing, while trump wants to find cuts in [what some people see as] ineffective social programs to fund national security and energy independence.
of course its so much more complicated than that so you're gonna have to dig through a lot of crap |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:45 AM |
| I'm assuming everyone on this thread has watched the "big short" to understand this |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:46 AM |
free college alone would cost somewhere around 50-100 billion annually looking at some different estimates on the web
that singular policy is going to have a massive deficit impact unless they plan on taking the same amount out of military which may or may not backlash |
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| 12 Jul 2016 11:49 AM |
'the big short'
i have several courses where study cases of this topic are brought up. ive had it brought up in my microeconomics class (from borrowers' perspective), macroecnomics, accounting I, accounting II, finance, statistics I, calculus for economics, ethics and statistics II |
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