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Re: F.E.A.R. and A-SOV Negotiations.

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LordStrakk is not online. LordStrakk
Joined: 03 Nov 2013
Total Posts: 535
09 Jul 2016 07:48 PM
The negotiations between F.E.A.R. and ASOV has been very slow and rough. But I feel like its time to show the facts.

We shall start with the truth that you have won at A2 various times. But this is too difficult for you, so in exchange for some legal updates we did some A2 updates for you.

Not only where grenades disabled, the raider limit raised, You get more cover (WIP), you get 4 guns from Nexus on a 1 week trial for all your members, double veza week so you can have funds to buy more guns, but also you get an extra 10 minutes on the raid timer allowing you more chances to get and hold the terminal.

These where all nicely agreed upon with the hope that ASOV would be as friendly with their side of negotiations.

We asked a few things for legal. Things such as a longer diffuse time on the bomb based on the progress of the bomb, spawns moved up at legal for ASOV, A point for stacking to be decreased to allow less needed players, Forcefields replaced with spawn barriers, and originally to have FF time decreased.

What did we get in return?

1. FF time was decreased from 20 seconds to 15 seconds. Might I add that raiders have a 8 second FF
2. Spawns where moved up, but not without intense bickering with Seviro.
3. The stacking point was updated, THEN to have ASOV raise the roofs later. Luckly we caught this and forced them to lower the roofs back to normal.

I hope you can see how F.E.A.R. gladly took charge of our agreements and did the right thing by meeting on the same page as ASOV. The same cannot be said for them.

Not only was what we received a fraction of what we asked for, but Seviro kept saying that A2 was unbalanced. EVEN AFTER WE MADE THE MAJORITY OF OUR CHANGES!

I strongly recommend that no group deal with Seviro's huge lack of common sense and flexability. Go directly to PointlessChris, he is the only logical option.

@Seviro You held back all negotiations. You are unbelievably stubborn. PointlessChris did all the work and the real negotiating, so you should put him at leader of ASOV because he does better than you at everything.

The majority of ASOV is a good group, so dont take this as a insult unless you are Seviro. But hey, everything insulting about this is stuff that was caused by your actions.



Go ahead and post a reply, I really don't care about anything you say anymore Sev.


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Sevuhrow is not online. Sevuhrow
Joined: 25 Jan 2014
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09 Jul 2016 07:51 PM
http://prntscr.com/bqyfkx

Paragon of reason, LordStrakk.
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zepenguin4 is not online. zepenguin4
Joined: 09 Feb 2014
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09 Jul 2016 07:51 PM
Missed a bunch of stuff comrade.


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Externalization is online. Externalization
Joined: 21 Aug 2013
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09 Jul 2016 07:51 PM
A-SOV members are cool but Seviro has NO CHILL...


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icee08 is not online. icee08
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09 Jul 2016 07:52 PM

I'll be interested to witness how this plays out.
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ImNotXudios is not online. ImNotXudios
Joined: 31 Dec 2013
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09 Jul 2016 07:53 PM
Most of ASOV's member are cool, like Bulky and FlamePrince.

But some people....woahhhhh.


Anyways, hail Venezia!


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gunperkz is not online. gunperkz
Joined: 28 Nov 2010
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09 Jul 2016 07:54 PM
diffuse


if its not a gun, its cancer
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pointIesschris is not online. pointIesschris
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09 Jul 2016 07:57 PM
ok why
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Externalization is online. Externalization
Joined: 21 Aug 2013
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09 Jul 2016 07:57 PM
Also note:

Seviro made the roof higher in CP2 and changed spawns in Manor

Before A-SOV used to spawn on the ground and raiders used to spawn next to the tents, but now A-SOV spawns on the roof and gets a height advantage and shooting position directly from their spawn and raiders spawn in sewers which makes our walk distance much longer

and want to know why he added those updates? He thought Legal was too easy after CP1 and so he made both CP2 and manor harder lol

/DGzEyYT (imguh)


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Sevuhrow is not online. Sevuhrow
Joined: 25 Jan 2014
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09 Jul 2016 07:58 PM
"Before A-SOV used to spawn on the ground and raiders used to spawn next to the tents"

Completely false

"but now A-SOV spawns on the roof and gets a height advantage and shooting position directly from their spawn and raiders spawn in sewers which makes our walk distance much longer"

We always spawned on the rooftop.
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zepenguin4 is not online. zepenguin4
Joined: 09 Feb 2014
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09 Jul 2016 07:59 PM
"Before A-SOV used to spawn on the ground and raiders used to spawn next to the tents, but now A-SOV spawns on the roof and gets a height advantage and shooting position directly from their spawn and raiders spawn in sewers which makes our walk distance much longer"

We never spawned on the ground comrade, fact check next time.


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ImNotXudios is not online. ImNotXudios
Joined: 31 Dec 2013
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09 Jul 2016 08:00 PM
dont forget how asov admins wouldnt let us on roofs they dont even know how to get onto xd


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Pokemonpro21 is not online. Pokemonpro21
Joined: 21 Aug 2009
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09 Jul 2016 08:03 PM
FEARs base was already fair before we declared war on you guys. ASOV pretty much made it worse.
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sasuketrooper is not online. sasuketrooper
Joined: 02 Feb 2008
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09 Jul 2016 08:04 PM
your base is unbalanced kys
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Externalization is online. Externalization
Joined: 21 Aug 2013
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09 Jul 2016 08:05 PM
Ok I take back the roof spawn thing but still no excuse for the roofs


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Sevuhrow is not online. Sevuhrow
Joined: 25 Jan 2014
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09 Jul 2016 08:06 PM
FEAR added updates without permission too.
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sasuketrooper is not online. sasuketrooper
Joined: 02 Feb 2008
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09 Jul 2016 08:07 PM
old a2 was fine

new fear base is worse than labs first version
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KINGISOLAYTOR is not online. KINGISOLAYTOR
Joined: 20 Nov 2015
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09 Jul 2016 08:10 PM
All this because someone thought "I CAN BEAT FEAR LOL THEYRE WEAK" and then when they lose, like every other clan on this game....


"UNFAIR!!!"
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WizardlyShadow is not online. WizardlyShadow
Joined: 08 Nov 2011
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09 Jul 2016 08:10 PM
You can't compare ASOV's and FEAR's bases.

A2 is highly unbalanced but because of the low quality defenders most people think it's fair.

That's without saying that Legal doesn't have some faults, but not as many A2.

Personally having to negotiate with FEAR is a pain since when I had to they took 1 week to change Recruits counting as 0.5 to 1.




Also why did you have to bring this to the forums lol.


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LordIntense is not online. LordIntense
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09 Jul 2016 08:11 PM
Epic
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Sevuhrow is not online. Sevuhrow
Joined: 25 Jan 2014
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09 Jul 2016 08:11 PM
But we went 10-2, ISO.

A-SOV kept this off the forums, Strakk posted this and shouted it in FEAR for thousands to see and start drama with.
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KINGISOLAYTOR is not online. KINGISOLAYTOR
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09 Jul 2016 08:11 PM
Obviously to inform people.
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KINGISOLAYTOR is not online. KINGISOLAYTOR
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09 Jul 2016 08:12 PM
If you went 10-2, then the base isn't unfair and you've won at it before.

Don't complain if you've won at it...
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Externalization is online. Externalization
Joined: 21 Aug 2013
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09 Jul 2016 08:12 PM
If you went 10-2, then the base isn't unfair and you've won at it before.

Don't complain if you've won at it... [2]


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Seviro is not online. Seviro
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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09 Jul 2016 08:13 PM
We're complaining because we spent a week negotiating to get updates to the base to balance things out with our own base, and then after we beat them several times they instantly reverted all the updates and refused to give us anything as can be seen in my first post on this thread.

We can still win at Alianor II, and I'm willing to go through with the war, but seemingly Strakk is more interested in drama.


https://www.roblox.com/sev3-item?id=290109654
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