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Re: Let's talk about "Time"

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Tefmon is not online. Tefmon
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07 Jul 2016 01:00 PM
First off, time isn't a circular orbit or defined by a circular orbit or anything to do with orbits at all. Orbits are a consequence of gravitation -- imagine a place in intergalactic space which isn't "in orbit" around anything. Time must still pass there.

Many of you are confusing the idea of time and unit of time. Yes, the Earth orbits the Sun and we have decided to call that 365 days. But that has very little to do with time, other than being a way to measure its passing. It's no different than saying length doesn't exist because a foot is typically the distance of a grown man's foot. It is a fact, that the Sun (from the perspective of Earth) will pass the Equator, and that the period of time between successive passes (in the same direction) will have 365 day/night cycles. Someone a long time ago called 1 day/night cycle a "day". Which is simply a measurement of the time.

There are many examples in physics where the nature of time is defined. First and foremost, is the second law of thermodynamics, which essentially defines "The Arrow of Time" (google it). Yes, Einstein showed that time is relative, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Space is also relative, but are you going to suggest that space is also an illusion? No, of course not. The statement, "time is relative" is correct, but incomplete.

The Universe is immense, no argument. But how does the size of the Universe imply that time doesn't exist?

Time is simply a way of sequentially aligning events. Something occurs before something else, that is how time is defined. Yes it's real. Leave the psuedo out of science.

but you already knew that
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07 Jul 2016 01:01 PM
Did I read?

No LOL


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07 Jul 2016 01:02 PM
Lol
Your siggy defeated the whole purpous


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07 Jul 2016 01:02 PM
To sum it up time do sent exist only clocks do




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07 Jul 2016 01:03 PM
Dosent
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Tefmon is not online. Tefmon
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07 Jul 2016 01:05 PM
time is rel
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07 Jul 2016 01:06 PM
lol your siggy seriously fits in this one and it's funniii :o

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07 Jul 2016 01:07 PM
sometimes my siggy appears
sometimes it doesnt
it's a mystery
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07 Jul 2016 01:07 PM
@Clur

I said the same thing
Why copy


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07 Jul 2016 01:08 PM
because i wanted to post it after i saw OKAY

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07 Jul 2016 01:08 PM
just use the siggy addon for chrome

+don9 please tef

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07 Jul 2016 01:10 PM
im poor af
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07 Jul 2016 01:11 PM
Aw man, I thought we were discussing InceptionTime
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07 Jul 2016 01:12 PM
"Aw man, I thought we were discussing InceptionTime"

ya he's a cool guy he liked my tweet :ooooooooooo

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07 Jul 2016 01:12 PM
Nice copypasta


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07 Jul 2016 01:13 PM
You found that on Yahoo Answers on question ID 201 11016 18572 4AAds285. (roblox doesn't allow long numbers)


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07 Jul 2016 01:13 PM
but you already knew that


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bro you got nuff to change ur name like once a day

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07 Jul 2016 01:14 PM
legoseed > legoplant > legotree


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@lego

We dont discuss mods in our subforum


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07 Jul 2016 01:17 PM
@lego

maybe next time bud
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07 Jul 2016 01:22 PM
I agree with the majority of this, however I believe that the main argument here isn't pushing all too accurate of a narrative.

I'M JUST GOING ON A RANT OKAY SO NO PARAGRAPHS

So, from what I gather it is that the universe can be comparable to but a sect of time, no? As can be gathered from the quote; "The Universe is immense, no argument. But how does the size of the Universe imply that time doesn't exist?" followed by the next sentence's "Time is simply a way of sequentially aligning events". So, thus it is that the universe, or moreso rather space is a sect of time in that it, much like time, as is the comparison here, is sequence of events, but nothing more. Well, like I said, I would have to disagree. The universe as a space cannot simply be this; a set of events, that is. It is something that is simply there. It's space. But emptiness spanning all that is visible. Sequences of events, or, to stop the reuse, time, is something that is, in some degree, inexistent, no? While of course it is and always will be there, it is not a physical being or characteristic, such as the space we see. It is almost like an illusion of space in some way. Take the event of a black hole, for example. While commonly seen as a space in the world, some dark hole that fills this void in the universe, sucking in all around it, it's different, no? Black holes are just the "space" you are mention - time. They're time itself in some way, no? Black holes truly aren't there in some degree, as they aren't really space, per say, but instead are, as I said, time. Black holes are sequences of events. All that is within them is time and the time that they see is different than the time we perceive. Thus it is relative. And thus, by this, they are in some entirely different plane of physicality, no? Say, as an example here, if one is to be sucked within the vortex of a black hole and miraculously survive, they simply won't be there. Here, more so. If they are in a black hole, that's about all they'll see - the hole. Darkness. Nothingness. Time, really. But what will we say, peering down at them? We'll see them. We'll see them as they slowly drift towards the hole ever slower until they come to what appears to be a halt. This is, of course, as you mentioned, as a result of relativity and the differences of time throughout space. This is time. What we, and they, see is but a sequence of events. Take note of now they see nothingness in the black hole, as time and space are different. Interconnected in some ways, many, but the same? No. Now, back to the point on why the universe isn't like this. The universe as relative, I suppose can be interpreted in many fashions. As in the universe itself is relative, or properties of? I assume the former, but I'll discuss both. The latter most certainly is true with different amounts of gravity, pressure, and whatever else. I don't think I need to go into any more detail with that. As for the universe itself, entirely, this, as I was focusing the argument of this post around, I would have to disagree upon, respectively. The universe is simply nothing of comparison. We don't have another example to do it towards, as we can with time. It is simply there. An entity eternal, almost. Now, the space exactly, is, and the growth of it, of course, again is. Why? Well, the universe, of course, is ever changing in its position and shape. I think we can all agree and or know that the universe is expanding, thus its size is comparable to its past self, thus I suppose being "relative" in some sense, but only with the assistance of time, so thus, I believe this does nullify the idea of the universe being relative. For that point, at least. For what it would need to truly be relative is comparison to nothing but itself, no? While of course a lot of the relativity of time comes from influence of physical beings, does it come from the ideas and laws of time itself that this is even possible? The latter cannot be said about the relativity of the universe, no? Now, this is just some random theory of mine on the end of the universe. It ties in, trust me. So, as I believe is as well likely and commonly thought, death would come at the eventually dying of stars at a spread out universe, thus destroying any life. However, what if instead, as my theory predicts, instead, the universe has some "great decline" and instead of expanding, exploding, it instead implodes on itself? And thus the big bang is causes over and over, spawning the universe anew? So thus, with this, while not the exact same as the past, at least potentially not as time will certainly tell another story each time, or so I presume, would it not allow for an accurate comparison to past "universes" if you will? So thus there is comparison to previous "modelS" almost? So, in a way, assuming I am correct, then, in some sense, the universe IS relative, no? And as a result, space itself, all of existence, is just the same? Some rambling, but I think it accurately answers the questions and attacks the arguments appropriately. However, is it not that the universe can both be relative and not so at the same time? How it may fill in any single slot and idea of existence, yet not so at the same time? All due to the potential relativity of it, and the ever flowing river of time?

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GuestIy is not online. GuestIy
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07 Jul 2016 01:22 PM
WAIT THIS WAS JUST A COPY PASTA
DAMNIT
OKAY
THANKS

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07 Jul 2016 01:23 PM
kill me
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07 Jul 2016 01:25 PM
@guestIy

LOL you wasted all that time and i just copied this off the internet with no effort what so ever. IM DED

and also, sorry
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