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Re: i think low ranks should not be exiled for posting a problem

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SpeakerColonia is not online. SpeakerColonia
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06 Jul 2016 03:25 PM
i see some clans exiling their members for posting a problem or getting mad but the thing is you guys failed by having a member having to post about it on C&G




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Imitater is not online. Imitater
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06 Jul 2016 03:26 PM
perhaps the person himself is a failed member
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SpeakerColonia is not online. SpeakerColonia
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06 Jul 2016 03:26 PM
how is the person a failed member

the clan has a problem that said member didn't cause


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YoshiFace is not online. YoshiFace
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06 Jul 2016 03:26 PM
dont post it on c&g, PM a high rank
they deserve to be exiled if they're going to talk sht about their own clan


yar har skittle dee dee
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SpeakerColonia is not online. SpeakerColonia
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06 Jul 2016 03:27 PM
usually the person posts the thread because he can not PM a high rank


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SLPM is not online. SLPM
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06 Jul 2016 03:27 PM
The issue is it brings hate toward the clan even if problem is resolved. Negative publicity is unwelcome'd by majority of clans and that's why when members create it they punish them. Most clans have rules against negatively foruming about them.


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Headmeister is not online. Headmeister
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06 Jul 2016 03:27 PM
so what if it's a serious problem


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SLPM is not online. SLPM
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06 Jul 2016 03:28 PM
Not being able to pm a high rank is the issue the clan has. Punishing a person for speaking badly about them is not.


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SpeakerColonia is not online. SpeakerColonia
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06 Jul 2016 03:28 PM
but slpm if we allowed clans to not punish low ranks for posting a problem, the clan standard will get higher and more better clans will arise


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SLPM is not online. SLPM
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06 Jul 2016 03:29 PM
I disagree with that. Most clans will service their members and try to help them in hopes of keeping them, however if the member posts on a forum about it all that does is hurts the clan and now the leader sees the member as a traitor.


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SpeakerColonia is not online. SpeakerColonia
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06 Jul 2016 03:30 PM
asking a question is not traitorous


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SLPM is not online. SLPM
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06 Jul 2016 03:30 PM
Personally I am always very close to my members so I'd feel hurt if they did this to me.



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SLPM is not online. SLPM
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06 Jul 2016 03:31 PM
And posting anything negative about a clan you're in on the forums is treacherous. It ruins public image.


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Polymorphic is online. Polymorphic
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06 Jul 2016 03:31 PM
c&g is a cluster of degeneracy and one sided victim stories ruin clan reputations, so itd be advisable not to throw a can of gasoline on a small fire.
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SpeakerColonia is not online. SpeakerColonia
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06 Jul 2016 03:33 PM
that is like saying in real life

"Our Secretary of State is bad because he/she is not doing his/her job correctly."

this is not treason

it is bring up an issue, and indirectly saying this clan has a problem

usually they PM, but if they feel like they have to post it on the forums, then you have an issue, and you must fix that issue.




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SLPM is not online. SLPM
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06 Jul 2016 03:35 PM
In real life we don't live in a military ran dictatorship that relies on public image to gain power now do we?


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SpeakerColonia is not online. SpeakerColonia
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06 Jul 2016 03:41 PM
but this ends up being for the better though,

the clan leader hears about this, fixes the issue, and there is no more issue

if the member cant post on C&G and can't pm the HRs about this issue, the clan grows with issues, until the cat comes out of the bag, causing more bad public image

Better to be hurt with one issue, then to be considered bad for a long while.


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SLPM is not online. SLPM
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06 Jul 2016 03:43 PM
Like I said, the problem is not being able to contact a high rank.
Posting on C&G no matter what is not tolerable, that's just stupidity. People only post badly about their clan on C&G in rage fits and most of the time they could have pm'd a high rank or the leader but chose not to. Personally I prefer my members contacting me directly since that way I know the situation is handled right.


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SpeakerColonia is not online. SpeakerColonia
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06 Jul 2016 03:51 PM
almost all the time i see low ranks posting about a problem, it seems like they couldn't pm a HR

sometimes the HR won't pm back, which has occurred to me before




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SLPM is not online. SLPM
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06 Jul 2016 03:52 PM
Normally I see HRs being like "why didn't you pm us"

So you must be looking at different threads than me.


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SLPM is not online. SLPM
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06 Jul 2016 03:53 PM
Personally I don't pm HRs, I pm the owner. If owner doesn't respond I leave the group. I don't serve groups led by people too arrogant to solve any issues I have.


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