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Clan Performance Ranking System V.1

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LordIntense is not online. LordIntense
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03 Jul 2016 11:35 AM
you spend way too much time doing this
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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03 Jul 2016 11:36 AM
Actually this could take maybe an hour or 2 max of work.

~Old man Steam~
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LordIntense is not online. LordIntense
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03 Jul 2016 11:37 AM
my point still stands
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5ancu is not online. 5ancu
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03 Jul 2016 11:37 AM
Good luck updating this list with place visits every week lol.
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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03 Jul 2016 11:39 AM
That's the length of putting time into a raid or training intense. So unless you have never raided or never gone to a training you must not have put time into anything, I mean I saw how raa was ran while you were in charge.

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LordIntense is not online. LordIntense
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03 Jul 2016 11:40 AM
lol okay
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Devin5134 is not online. Devin5134
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03 Jul 2016 11:46 AM
i spent less than 30 mins on this cause im so smort

you spend way more time doing non productive things on roblox as steam pointed out so who cares. this can actually serve a very positive role, which is providing people with a tool to refer to when they're conduct ratings for groups.


sancu, in case you missed the point of everything, this list explains the algorithm ... i dont need to rate any single group for the algorithm to remain the same
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Devin5134 is not online. Devin5134
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03 Jul 2016 11:55 AM
although i or someone else should make a top 10 list
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5ancu is not online. 5ancu
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03 Jul 2016 12:01 PM
"sancu, in case you missed the point of everything, this list explains the algorithm ... i dont need to rate any single group for the algorithm to remain the same"

yeah and i'm stating that you'd need to use weekly or monthly place visits to keep the list up-to-date lol

so you'll have to refine it every now and then

besides, you have to judge their war conduct/negotiation conduct yourself, that's a qualitative output as opposed to place visits, which is a quantitative output
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Devin5134 is not online. Devin5134
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03 Jul 2016 12:03 PM
how is checking place traffic remotely a problem?

'besides, you have to judge their war conduct/negotiation conduct yourself, that's a qualitative output as opposed to place visits, which is a quantitative output'


you mean... the algorithm isn't 100% accurate to the tee? O_O

holy ur a genius
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kroxon is not online. kroxon
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03 Jul 2016 12:10 PM
Do TCD
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5ancu is not online. 5ancu
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03 Jul 2016 12:10 PM
i'm not saying checking place traffic is a problem ffs

i'm just saying you'll have to make adjust your results every week or month because place visits fluctuate

u dumb?
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5ancu is not online. 5ancu
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03 Jul 2016 12:11 PM
have to adjust*

i suck at english and i apologize in advance for any future grammatical stupidities
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Devin5134 is not online. Devin5134
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03 Jul 2016 12:12 PM
what a useless comment


are you suggesting that group activity changes over time?

wow o boy i never knew thanks sancu
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5ancu is not online. 5ancu
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03 Jul 2016 12:13 PM
yep confirmed ur an idiot
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Devin5134 is not online. Devin5134
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03 Jul 2016 12:16 PM
any proper list of any kind, be it roblox or a credit rating agency in the real world, requires periodic variable updating

so what in the world did you try achieving with that comment?
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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03 Jul 2016 12:17 PM
I think war performance/conduct should be weighted more, especially when that war conduct has a significant impact/influence on the clan world.

I'm not one to determine clans solely on war performance, but I think when clans such as VAK and RAT progress the clan attitude of "doing anything to win" to a significant point where it does affect the clans around them then they should be a lot more penalized for such behavior.
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5ancu is not online. 5ancu
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03 Jul 2016 12:18 PM
i'm just saying you're likely not gonna pull through with it

that's all
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Devin5134 is not online. Devin5134
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03 Jul 2016 12:21 PM
what are you talking about sancu. again, this is just an algorithm / method users can reference when ranking groups to give some sort of legitimacy to their lists. because, unlike any other list out there, this one has a logical foundation and a lot of objective variables that can be used.


neder, fair comment. the reason i weighted war performance and conduct less than the other criteria is because i dont see it historically significant to the performance of the individual clan. wij for example had very few wars and yet was considered (for good reasons) to be the best clan in 2013. if this were a big-picture scale that considered the impact a clan's actions have on the community, like a level of clan contribution algorithm, i would have weighted war conducts substantially harder.
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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03 Jul 2016 12:22 PM
So hang on, let's stop the sarcasm and talk calmly
Its pretty obvious the list would be updated monthly, or even every 2 or so months. To allow time for wars to progress.
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5ancu is not online. 5ancu
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03 Jul 2016 12:22 PM
oh so you're not actually making a list

well then you've just wasted your time on this thread el oh el
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Devin5134 is not online. Devin5134
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03 Jul 2016 12:23 PM
this isn't a list though it's just a methodical clan performance algorithm

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Devin5134 is not online. Devin5134
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03 Jul 2016 12:24 PM
what sancu?
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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03 Jul 2016 12:35 PM
sancu too stupid -__-
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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03 Jul 2016 12:46 PM
while wij's war prowess was a smaller factor than some of its other components, historically speaking, war was simply not at the top of the list for most clans, while is very different for today's clans

i think this would be good for clans of the past, but since war is so heavily emphasized nowadays (which it shouldnt be), i think it should have a greater impact of a clan's rankings

i'm not saying war performance itself should have a greater impact (whether you win or lose shouldnt matter, but activity, fun, etc. should be what wars are about), whether your clan holds ideals/value that are opposite of the clan attitude of "doing anything to win" that has gripped clans so harshly

so not so much the war performance, but the conduct and values the clan holds, which its same values should show up in other factors. for example, if a clan wants to portray itself as a welcoming and accepting community of all members, then they should not limit defenses/activities to elites but allow everyone to participate (including when they are both in and out of war).

any clan that fights honorably should be rewarded bonus points for going against this social "norm" within clans, and those that continue to progress it the most should be penalized
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