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Re: How has RAT cheated?

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Obtention is not online. Obtention
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29 Jun 2016 11:22 PM
I wanna hear the full story. Both sides' input would be appreciated.
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Insurrect is not online. Insurrect
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29 Jun 2016 11:22 PM
wtf
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SnoopDogg is not online. SnoopDogg
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29 Jun 2016 11:22 PM
probably some kids @ roblox high school


im the plug
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UltimateNoobKiller82 is not online. UltimateNoobKiller82
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29 Jun 2016 11:22 PM
Here we go again, first page
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ImperialOutcast is not online. ImperialOutcast
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29 Jun 2016 11:23 PM
@OP

Are you joking? You've got to be joking right?


#code game.Workspace:ClearAllChildren() print('Rage')
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steamsport is not online. steamsport
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29 Jun 2016 11:23 PM
If you read anything, you would of seen the arguments.


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zepenguin4 is not online. zepenguin4
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29 Jun 2016 11:24 PM
Miss out yo

https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=188758233


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Obtention is not online. Obtention
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29 Jun 2016 11:24 PM
I haven't been here in 9 months. Give me a break.
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awesomoshane is not online. awesomoshane
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29 Jun 2016 11:25 PM
They recruit at roblox high school
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zepenguin4 is not online. zepenguin4
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29 Jun 2016 11:25 PM
Poly is currently trying to deny any other instances of cheating, even when we have video proof of a damage increase for RAT ever since the TGI v RAT war.


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sovrn is not online. sovrn
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29 Jun 2016 11:25 PM
It seems more like certain individuals are just trying to find ways to portray RAT in a negative manner, even KingAktar said later that nothing in those experiments were definitive proof of anything ...
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zepenguin4 is not online. zepenguin4
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29 Jun 2016 11:26 PM
"even KingAktar said later that nothing in those experiments were definitive proof of anything ..."

What

The proof is right there.


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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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29 Jun 2016 11:26 PM
They were found to have +2 damage on their "same" guns. They also added in these special admiral pistols (SPFlights), which were super OP, to use against FoA after FoA kept winning at their fort.

Additionally, Poly admitted to healthing RAT members and they also perm ban Raiders (For no reason) by simply saying they are "blacklisted" from RAT. While blacklists are supposed to mean that those people can't join the group, RAT uses it to simply ban adequate Raiders.
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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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29 Jun 2016 11:27 PM
"KingAktar said later that nothing in those experiments were definitive proof of anything"

I'm pretty sure in his resignation thread King literally denounced RAT for doing the damage buffs. Also, Andrew did as well.
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zepenguin4 is not online. zepenguin4
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29 Jun 2016 11:28 PM
Part two also reveals that Poly changed the raider damage to 7 instead of the 16 during a raid when we had terminal so they could recap.

He said that he healthed the RAT team and didn't change damage when that was proven wrong in this thread.

https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=191222534


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Falkion is not online. Falkion
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29 Jun 2016 11:29 PM
The cheating stems back to the TGI vs. RAT war, when rodger and BoostPowah also discovered something fishy about the fort and the guns there.

And then there's the divisional advantages at Sierra which are quite ironic to be truthful.
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Obtention is not online. Obtention
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29 Jun 2016 11:29 PM
Have they been in a war since? When was the RAT-FoA war?
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Obtention is not online. Obtention
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29 Jun 2016 11:31 PM
To my understanding, the TGI v RAT war under rodgerdodger's leadership was RAT's to win, the damage on the guns were randomized from a certain variable to another. I remember Poly telling me that. But this sounds inexcusable, with these new accusations.
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zepenguin4 is not online. zepenguin4
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29 Jun 2016 11:31 PM
FoA declared war on RAT, but RAT decided to do everything to make sure the war didn't happen.

They wanted sword rushing removed, a 8v12 at Sierra, and a 15 minute terminal.

They refused to budge so we simply moved on to VAK.


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Falkion is not online. Falkion
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29 Jun 2016 11:32 PM
There never was a RAT vs. FoA war, just a lot of flame on C&G between the two because RAT thinks they're good.

RAT declared war on UAF, UAF accepted and FoA declared joint war with UAF. RAT got mad, called their allies (SC and RAA, RAA unallied them because they don't condone cheating, clearly chrispy isn't completely against it) to help them, but were still pissed about FoA because they wanted a "1 on 1 war" (which is stupid because it defeats the purpose of allies, which also adds to a clan's strength).
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zepenguin4 is not online. zepenguin4
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29 Jun 2016 11:33 PM
"the damage on the guns were randomized from a certain variable to another. I remember Poly telling me that. But this sounds inexcusable, with these new accusations."

The randomizer was removed as per request of rodger by Poly during the war.

And still the damage difference showed through.

Poly still uses excuses to say that this wasn't true, but the majority of the clan community understands that RAT cheated.


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Nederlandz is not online. Nederlandz
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29 Jun 2016 11:33 PM
Oh also the fact that they use negotiations to avoid wars.

FC declared war on them last year, gained plenty of wins in a short amount of time at Sierra, and RAT basically declined our war through negotiations.

They also avoided the war with FoA, but I can't speak much about UAF since I don't know the circumstances (All I know is that war didn't happen).
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Falkion is not online. Falkion
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29 Jun 2016 11:34 PM
"The damage on the guns were randomized from a certain variable to another. I remember Poly telling me that. But this sounds inexcusable, with these new accusations."

Pretty sure rodger got that removed in negotiations, and I believe they were randomized for certain body parts, so they (rodger and Boost, and whichever RAT they convinced to volunteer) just compared the same body parts when testing it.
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monsterpod is not online. monsterpod
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29 Jun 2016 11:34 PM
glory to fc
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Polymorphic is online. Polymorphic
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29 Jun 2016 11:34 PM
"Part two also reveals that Poly changed the raider damage to 7 instead of the 16 during a raid when we had terminal so they could recap.

He said that he healthed the RAT team and didn't change damage when that was proven wrong in this thread."

The RAT team was given 200 health in that particular raid, this has been admitted.

I know you're not too good at logical thinking, so let me do that for you.

If a gun does 14 damage, it takes about 7 hits to kill someone who has 100 health

If the person now increases from 100 health to 200 health, it will now take 14 hits to kill them (100 / 14 ~ 7, 200 / 14 ~ 14).

The health bar shows !PERCENTAGE! of health. Hence why here is a % sign next to your health.

and yes, I have reviewed all videos you have posted and my statement still stands strong. This was the only instance.
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