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| 28 Jun 2016 09:32 PM |
It's funny how often the botting excuse comes up as to why TIX got removed and why there isn't income from place visits anymore. So I'm remaking this thread, because it's time to stop this ignorant delusion.
For all of those who are clueless as to what reCaptcha, or just Captcha, is, it is a system that prevents botting that can usually be seen on other sites whenever posting something or creating an account. If you want a real simple example, go to Pastebin and try to paste something really long. Something will pop up telling you to check a box. Check it and you can proceed.
The reason (allegedly) that Captcha works is that it implements puzzles or simply just tasks in such a way that is pretty much impossible for a computer to do. Thus, bots cannot figure out the Captcha, but humans can, making spamming and the types of results from botting much harder to accomplish. Again, I don't know much about it, except there are several types that make it harder and harder to pull off botting. If you want to learn more, just google Captcha (someone gave a detailed expression in a thread but I can't find it anymore).
What ticks me off is that ROBLOX actually used to have Captcha. I have found threads asking for it to be removed because it is "too annoying" or "too strenuous". To those people, I ask them if they feel happy now that their annoyances have caused the most unpopular ROBLOX updates of all time.
The suggestion is a simple one that I believe a lot of people are pining for; heavily implement Captcha into pretty much every facet of ROBLOX. This includes, but is not limited to:
- Creating an account - Posting a comment on ANYTHING - Buying a Limited/LimitedU item - Rapidly rejoining a particular game - Rating a game - Trading - Making repeated forum posts in quick succession - etc.
Controversially, I'd also like to ask public opinion about a somewhat radical idea that I found searching the forums. This idea is that Captcha basically replace floodcheck. Simple as that. To me, I could see benefits in it, but it's really up to you guys to decide.
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NubSkillz
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| 28 Jun 2016 09:53 PM |
support, the bot spam is real. i get flooded with group invites every day.
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| 28 Jun 2016 10:00 PM |
Add it to the list then.
Also, why is the thread title hashtagged? |
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| 28 Jun 2016 10:07 PM |
- Creating an account - Sure - Posting a comment on ANYTHING - No - Buying a Limited/LimitedU item - No - Rapidly rejoining a particular game - No. ROBLOX requires a time limit of I think 45 seconds for a visit to count as a place visit anyway. - Rating a game - No, they already have a "Must play to rate" feature - Trading - Plz no - Making repeated forum posts in quick succession - No, that is what forumers do.
We don't want to turn ROBLOX into the TSA security, and make sure that you are legit whenever you do ANYTHING.
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| 28 Jun 2016 10:15 PM |
- Creating an account - "Sure" MMMHMMMM
- Posting a comment on ANYTHING - "No" A lot of spam comes from bots.
- Buying a Limited/LimitedU item - "No" There are bots that rapidly buy up LimitedUs the second they come out, leaving none for anyone else. - Rapidly rejoining a particular game - "No. ROBLOX requires a time limit of I think 45 seconds for a visit to count as a place visit anyway." Can you provide some documentation on this? This is the first time I've heard of it.
- Rating a game - "No, they already have a "Must play to rate" feature" Good point. Removed from the list.
- Trading - "Plz no" I'm pretty sure there are also bots that spam trades, if not dangerous OP trades like the one TripleTen received.
- Making repeated forum posts in quick succession - "No, that is what forumers do." I should probably change this to be more like Pastebin's "Captcha over a certain word count" strategy. |
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cooper135
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| 28 Jun 2016 10:27 PM |
If you have BC you should be able to bypass the captcha for posting all of that except trading and buying a limited/limitedU item since you have to be BC to do that anyway.
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spydig
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| 28 Jun 2016 10:28 PM |
Support.
Winning since 1776. |
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| 28 Jun 2016 10:32 PM |
"If you have BC you should be able to bypass the captcha for posting all of that except trading and buying a limited/limitedU item since you have to be BC to do that anyway."
Absolutely not.
BCers are not more often model citizens compared to NBCers. BCers can still be spammers in every single regard. |
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cooper135
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| 28 Jun 2016 10:35 PM |
@Super Here have 300 robux. Put up a gamepass or something and I'll donate to you.
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| 28 Jun 2016 10:38 PM |
@cooper
What does that have to do with anything in this thread? |
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| 28 Jun 2016 10:45 PM |
- Creating an account - "Sure" MMMHMMMM
- Posting a comment on ANYTHING - "No" A lot of spam comes from bots. - but there will be more loss than win. People will have to fill out some freaking form every time they want to comment on something. the comment limit is allready bad enough.
- Buying a Limited/LimitedU item - "No" There are bots that rapidly buy up LimitedUs the second they come out, leaving none for anyone else. - Right, but that is only for trash limiteds, that we don't even need anyway. This would be very annoying.
- Rapidly rejoining a particular game - "No. ROBLOX requires a time limit of I think 45 seconds for a visit to count as a place visit anyway." Can you provide some documentation on this? This is the first time I've heard of it. Go find out for your self. keep rapidly rejoining any game, and watch the place visits stay the exact same
- Rating a game - "No, they already have a "Must play to rate" feature" Good point. Removed from the list.
- Trading - "Plz no" I'm pretty sure there are also bots that spam trades, if not dangerous OP trades like the one TripleTen received. No. Bots do not spam trades. There is not even a reason to.
- Making repeated forum posts in quick succession - "No, that is what forumers do." I should probably change this to be more like Pastebin's "Captcha over a certain word count" strategy. No, still this would be so annoying.
And imagine how TERRIBLY mad the community would be if any of these got added.
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Tornadey
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| 28 Jun 2016 10:47 PM |
Support
|Robux:R$6,317|Rap:74,968| |
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| 28 Jun 2016 10:56 PM |
"People will have to fill out some freaking form every time they want to comment on something. the comment limit is allready bad enough." Captchas are a lot simpler than you are making them out to be. As I stated in the thread, the Captcha for Pastebin was a simple check mark. If people would get annoyed by that then we've got some short fuses here on ROBLOX.
"Right, but that is only for trash limiteds, that we don't even need anyway." You'd be right if it weren't the case that limited prices and RAPs fluctuate every single day. What would you feel like if a bot purchased all of a limited that was trash at the time, then all of a sudden heavily rose in price? Not only does it give people an unfair advantage, it robs entrepreneurial LMaDers who have no knowledge of said bots from getting a good leg up in the market.
"No. Bots do not spam trades. There is not even a reason to." If they've got items, they've got reason. Good reason or not. It's kind of like spamming PMs.
"And imagine how TERRIBLY mad the community would be if any of these got added." Imagine how terribly mad they are now with the excuse that "botting was not able to be controlled" for the removal of TIX. |
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| 28 Jun 2016 11:29 PM |
Im sorry but, SOME Bc people just brag about their BC, if that would be implemented, spam bots would just buy BC to spam. Dont you get it?
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| 29 Jun 2016 12:02 AM |
| No one seems to have responded to the prospect of replacing floodcheck with Captcha. |
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| 29 Jun 2016 12:15 AM |
I forgot to add to the original post that to show how easy it was to create accounts without Captcha I basically created an alt within five seconds.
https://www.roblox.com/users/138729082/profile |
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| 29 Jun 2016 01:54 PM |
I said "support" yesterday...
Winning since 1776. |
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| 29 Jun 2016 02:10 PM |
| When did they remove Captcha? I agree that it should be used in a lot of places on the site but I had encountered it not too long ago when I was logging in and out of many accounts within a small time frame. |
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| 29 Jun 2016 03:30 PM |
b2
keep this thread alive, it's the key to a lot of our problems |
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| 01 Jul 2016 07:30 PM |
no support every time i get a captcha its like
ᓄᑕᓯⴷⴻⵣⵍеюбжа jalrnушч
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