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Re: Some people alive today may be able to live "forever"

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millsbuddy is online. millsbuddy
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26 Jun 2016 09:33 PM
Think about it.

The rate of which technology improves is exponential. We're in an exploding age of tech that's getting faster and faster frighteningly fast. As a result, the average expected age of people in a lot of places has risen. And it's reasonable to expect that this will continue to raise over time, for now.

If the trend of the exponential growth in technologies continue in the coming years, as per Moore's law... then some people alive today could live forever.

There are many ways this could be achieved. Medicine and treatment could get so advanced that people will be able to stay healthy for so, so much longer. Perhaps treatments to immensely slow or halt the aging process. Or, perhaps, people start replacing limbs and organs in their bodies with better, more advanced robotic ones that never fail. Who knows? All we know is that a exponential trend is being observed... and it's not stopping.

The next 100 years are gonna be fun.


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AwesDoge2 is not online. AwesDoge2
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26 Jun 2016 09:33 PM
SO YOUR THE GUY WHO KEEPS ON HIDING SECRETS
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stay_lame is not online. stay_lame
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26 Jun 2016 09:34 PM
i dont wanna live forever i wanna die before i have to pay taxes
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millsbuddy is online. millsbuddy
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26 Jun 2016 09:34 PM
Here's another way to put it:

Right now, people are dying faster than new technology being developed.

What happens when the growth of technology surpasses the speed of which people are dying?


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super79mario is not online. super79mario
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26 Jun 2016 09:36 PM
do you really think that there isn't going to be controversy with some advancements that slow them down drastically? it's an interesting concept though, why would you want to live forever without most of the people you know anyways.
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George_Lopez is not online. George_Lopez
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26 Jun 2016 09:37 PM
EVEN IF I DIE
MY LEGACY WILL LIVE ON FOREVER
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millsbuddy is online. millsbuddy
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26 Jun 2016 09:43 PM
"do you really think that there isn't going to be controversy with some advancements that slow them down drastically?"

Oh yeah, definitely, but there's going to be a huge demand for it too. As long as there's demand, it's going to develop.

And don't get me started on people losing their jobs to automation. The transportation is going to get hit hard soon here by self-driving cars and autos in general. There will be much controversy and protests, but will that really stop the innovation?


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bakestaybed is not online. bakestaybed
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26 Jun 2016 09:43 PM
tiger bulba


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WooziJihoon is not online. WooziJihoon
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26 Jun 2016 10:07 PM
i don't give a squat about living forever i just want to experience flying cars at some point during my life is that too much to ask for
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inpour is not online. inpour
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26 Jun 2016 10:07 PM
i dont want to live forever i want to die right now


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Nustra is not online. Nustra
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26 Jun 2016 10:08 PM
Ok
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millsbuddy is online. millsbuddy
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26 Jun 2016 10:09 PM
"i don't give a squat about living forever i just want to experience flying cars at some point during my life is that too much to ask for"

don't get too excited. If we actually do get advanced enough to get personal cars that can fly, you won't be able to drive them. They'll be autos


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0TForumer is not online. 0TForumer
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26 Jun 2016 10:10 PM
Maybe. I still plan to die in my 20s or 30s though.
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oxXGuideXxo is not online. oxXGuideXxo
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26 Jun 2016 10:10 PM
It'll be nice, but might be depressing if out of everyone you knew, you're the only one who was able to live "forever".
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millsbuddy is online. millsbuddy
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26 Jun 2016 10:13 PM
"It'll be nice, but might be depressing if out of everyone you knew, you're the only one who was able to live "forever"."

That happens already in families.

That is to say, you're still alive while your other, older family members go away.

If anything, future-tech like this will actually help you KEEP the people you know.


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PootPootTheTrain is not online. PootPootTheTrain
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26 Jun 2016 10:17 PM
i'd rather die tbh

even if my friends and family live forever, i'd still want to finally rest
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Crawfly is not online. Crawfly
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26 Jun 2016 10:18 PM
well that wouldn't be a good thing with the current overpopulation problem
at the moment babies are being born faster than people are dying, and if life expectancy goes up than the difference between being born and dying will be much larger
long story short, we're all gonna die
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GIaceons is online. GIaceons
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26 Jun 2016 10:21 PM
all these people saying they'd rather die


admit it if you were offered to stop yourself from aging most of you would accept it in a heartbeat


plant a spooky seed to grow a spooky tree
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super79mario is not online. super79mario
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26 Jun 2016 10:22 PM
@glaceons
if it was offered right now we probably would, but if you stopped aging when you were already an old age?
eugh.
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0TForumer is not online. 0TForumer
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26 Jun 2016 10:38 PM
I'd honestly try to end myself at some point if I was able to live forever.
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millsbuddy is online. millsbuddy
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26 Jun 2016 11:24 PM
The obvious endgoal of this would to be either to A) Replace our bodies with mostly robotic parts that never fail and are far better than our biological counterparts, or B) Upload our consciousness to a massive online network. The first one seems more likely, at least for a good bit of time.

With that prediction, and how the trend of how tech is advancing, young people alive today could be able to live forever, whether that may be only a select few or a big portion of the population.

At the same time, AIs would be doing a lot of stuff for us.


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GospelJones is not online. GospelJones
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26 Jun 2016 11:25 PM
Quit humoring this fantasy that science-fiction hocus pocus isn't happening
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yeox769 is not online. yeox769
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26 Jun 2016 11:27 PM
lemme make a prediction

AIs will become so commonplace that nearly everybody can afford one

and you will probably be able to reprogram it

therefore we can all have butlers that we dont have to pay

woohoo!


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DarkVeiler is not online. DarkVeiler
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26 Jun 2016 11:28 PM
Wait..why would I want to live as a old folk forever..


- OT Newbag
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millsbuddy is online. millsbuddy
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27 Jun 2016 12:16 AM
"Quit humoring this fantasy that science-fiction hocus pocus isn't happening"

Go back, say, I don't know... 20 or 30 years ago, back in time. You carry with you a smart phone. In today's terms, a smart phone is a device relied HEAVILY ON by society. Here, it seems commonplace.

20, 30 years ago, it would seem like an impossible piece of tech.

In another sense, think back to one of the original arcade games. VERY simple graphics. Hell, let's say Pong, or a little later with Donkey Kong/Pac-Man/etc.. If in that day and age, you told someone that one day, one day soon, you'd be able to play video games on a personal home computer with graphics that look like real life. They'd reject the idea and say it's impossible.

I think people don't realize how QUICKLY technology develops. If we follow Moore's law, which has been observed to be true so far, then the "number of transistors in a dense integrated circuit doubles approximately every two years." This idea extends to all kinds of tech, improving more rapidly than anytime else in human history.

What will things be like another 20 years from now? 30? 40? If we brought a piece of tech from the near future to the present day, it would seem impossible to us. You can't deny the innovation in the world.

Is it crazy to imagine that one day humans will be more artificial than biological? We're already replacing people's limbs with robotic ones that WORK, and potentially we'll be replacing organs with artificial ones. Are they currently better than our biological counterpart? No, of course not, and that's why nobody's cutting off their limbs to get them. But when you think of the future, pretty soon here we'll be getting artificial body parts... that are better than our natural eyes. To give an example, eyes that can see far better than our natural ones.

"Artificial body parts will only be a luxury, the general public will not be able to get them."

Sure, at first. But a big part of technology is making existing tech cheaper and more affordable for the general public. To give an example, when a new computer graphics card comes out, it's pretty damn expensive, but as time goes on and more high level tech is produced, the price lowers, and more people have access to them. This is true for all technology, and whatever gets developed, will eventually fall into the hands of the majority, especially if there's a demand for it.

So do you deny innovation of the future? Do you deny that technology cannot developed to be much more advanced than it is right now? And yes, in your lifetime.


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