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Re: C&G Petition - Penalizing Rulebreakers

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5ancu is not online. 5ancu
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18 Jun 2016 06:38 PM
How about we exclude all clans who cheat and/or condone cheating?

This would mean excluding clans such as RAT, SC, UAF and other clans whose cheating in wars has not been as recent as the three examples given.

For the cheating, sufficient proof would need to be supplied.

Examples of cheating could be, but are not limited to
- Violating war terms both sides have agreed on, such as not updating your fort without permission
- Violating the general rules that exist, which most clans consensually agree to, such as exploiting
- Gun damage differing depending on which team (defenders/raiders) you are on
- More

We should totally do this in order to encourage fair play.

Whether the system should be penalizing depending on the degree of the violation should be discussed, and whether this petition, if generally supported by influential clan leaders, should take past violations of these new terms into consideration (thus excusing past violations, and essentially making them irrelevant in regards to this new rule set).

Discuss?
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masterali369 is not online. masterali369
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18 Jun 2016 06:39 PM
"More" Really......
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5ancu is not online. 5ancu
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18 Jun 2016 06:40 PM
The things that would be penalized need to be discussed, as well as the degree of the penalty in accordance to the degree of the violation.

It takes some adjusting.
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pistoria is not online. pistoria
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18 Jun 2016 06:40 PM
yes


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VektrinCallic is not online. VektrinCallic
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18 Jun 2016 06:41 PM
first off

how do you expect everyone to follow this


second off

what are the "penalties" for breaking them
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5ancu is not online. 5ancu
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18 Jun 2016 06:45 PM
Penalties could range from an x number of raid wins being given to the opponent in correlation to the degree of the violation to being regarded as an excluded/unaccepted clan (of course this status could be appealed should the clan show promising change). Another penalty could be conditional victory, but such a penalty would be for harsher violations.

Again, the penalties would need to be discussed and agreed to.

If there is generally an acceptance of these rules among clans, people would have to follow them to be considered a clan. You have to start somewhere.
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Headmeister is not online. Headmeister
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18 Jun 2016 06:46 PM
I doubt the entire community would go along with this.


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5ancu is not online. 5ancu
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18 Jun 2016 06:47 PM
If you support and/or wish to spread the petition, please post the following message on your group wall.

Here is a petition for all somewhat influential clanners/clan spokesmen to voice their opinion on. It regards how cheating during wars should be dealt with in the future, seeing as it has become a rather common problem. https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=191486896
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Daniel3613 is not online. Daniel3613
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18 Jun 2016 06:49 PM
Community doesn't agree on much, I don't think this would change anything but, good luck Sancuu.


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5ancu is not online. 5ancu
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18 Jun 2016 06:49 PM
@Headmeister,

when America was just a slave colony, them turning into a superpower, currently the only existing one as per definition, was pretty doubtful. But they had people who based their existence on not necessarily serving that cause, but serving causes that eventually led to this current status.

Once again, you've got to start somewhere.

And I'm not even American so don't even try calling me a patriot, I despise America - credit due where credit's due.
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dev_Brandon is not online. dev_Brandon
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18 Jun 2016 06:50 PM
How has Sleet Clan cheated?

They may have updated their base with some unfair updates but they weren't at war and therefore had no rules they're required to abide by and it being their fort can do whatever they please

If you don't like it you'd have to declare war and request change but until they agree with a rule set created for a war then technically they aren't cheaters

There's no universal law they HAVE to nor AGREED to follow but of course this post shows how ignorant you are to begin with.

I have no stance on UAF/RAT however.
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5ancu is not online. 5ancu
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18 Jun 2016 06:51 PM
@dev_Brandon,

Regardless of whether SC has or hasn't cheated, and whether you can regard what they did as cheating, the topic was covered in the original post.

"whether this petition, if generally supported by influential clan leaders, should take past violations of these new terms into consideration (thus excusing past violations, and essentially making them irrelevant in regards to this new rule set)."
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dev_Brandon is not online. dev_Brandon
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18 Jun 2016 06:54 PM
"This would mean excluding clans such as RAT, SC, UAF and other clans whose cheating in wars has not been as recent as the three examples given."

1.) SC has not been in war "recent"ly or in Chrispys era at all
2.) They didn't cheat

This makes you calling out SC an ignorant attempt to throw shade examples are okay but not when they aren't true.
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Nikomachus is not online. Nikomachus
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18 Jun 2016 06:55 PM
not going to work
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iRobotness is not online. iRobotness
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18 Jun 2016 06:56 PM
best idea...

but not going to work because most people will deny the fact they cheat
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Do1ogan is not online. Do1ogan
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18 Jun 2016 06:57 PM
yes chief
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5ancu is not online. 5ancu
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18 Jun 2016 06:57 PM
@dev_Brandon,

...which brings up another important aspect of it to cover; should (supposed) cheating only be regarded if it occurs during war? Should it always be considered? And if so, should the penalties differ depending on the situation (war/non-war).

I'm not trying to attack anyone, but threads have been posted about SC cheating, OwneD(numbers) even commented on it when he resigned from Luminary a day or two ago.
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zepenguin4 is not online. zepenguin4
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18 Jun 2016 06:58 PM
support


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pistoffgoth is not online. pistoffgoth
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18 Jun 2016 06:59 PM
every time someone breaks a war term they pay WCoR 100 robux to repent ;)

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VicePrezLava is not online. VicePrezLava
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18 Jun 2016 07:00 PM
i'm more concerned about clans who make those really bs forts
clans who cheat can just be ignored
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dev_Brandon is not online. dev_Brandon
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18 Jun 2016 07:01 PM
The thing about cheating is that it involves breaking a rule to give yourself an edge

While I 100% do not agree with the steps taken by chrispy it wasn't necessarily cheating, yes it did give them an advantage but they weren't breaking any rule they agreed to

I see it as more of a grey area, for example if you cheat on a test its because a rule was set in place to stop it, no talking, no using your phone, no copying, etc

But like a take home test you can do any of that really with no reprecussion

See what I mean?
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5ancu is not online. 5ancu
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18 Jun 2016 07:02 PM
"i'm more concerned about clans who make those really bs forts"

You'll have to tackle that yourselves in war negotiations.

Generally, you would expect this would be connected to some sort of exclusion either way, but with clans being how clans are now, this is unfortunately not what is the case presently.
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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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18 Jun 2016 07:03 PM
The punishment should be losing all of their allies and no interaction with the clan world until they apologise because cheaters never prosper


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5ancu is not online. 5ancu
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18 Jun 2016 07:04 PM
@dev_Brandon

"whether this petition, if generally supported by influential clan leaders, should take past violations of these new terms into consideration (thus excusing past violations, and essentially making them irrelevant in regards to this new rule set)."

The above quote regards the matter you're talking about; should previous violations of rules that were non-existent when these violations occurred or not? Basically asking the question if clans should be punished for their tendency to violate these rules in the future.
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dev_Brandon is not online. dev_Brandon
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18 Jun 2016 07:05 PM
I wish you would reword it and stop quoting it because the way its written doesn't appear to relate to my statement
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