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Re: stop harassing new OT'ers

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thatGirlMaggy is not online. thatGirlMaggy
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10 Jun 2016 09:35 AM
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why we should embrace new members of the community.

DISCLAIMER: sorry for grammatical mistakes or foul language, but i wrote this right off the bat on my phones “notes”.
NOTE: before replying with a counter-argument, make sure you’ve read the whole thing, confident that i haven’t addressed the argument.

READ THIS:
notice that i’m talking about general new OT’ers who are merely here to indulge in post content they enjoy, whether that be talking about their cat, a new katy perry album or whatever. i’m talking about the new people who actually try to be a part of the community.

off topic is as you know a hang-out for the lot of us. many of you are very persistent with insulting both the subforum and the members within, regardless of spending time a great amount of your time here.
you’ve in general always been significantly hypocritical and pessimistic, but i’ve observed a mentality which has bothered me on a thousand levels.

throughout the 4 years i’ve been here, i’ve encountered several and numerous complaints, attacks and hatred towards the new influx of our community.
it happens on a severe and obnoxious degree daily, it’s even utilized as an argument and veritably even considered a valid one.
as someone who was initially a victim of these type of attacks, i can tell you all it’s not a delightful (pun intended) experience. surely i agree that my content was bad and i merely posted for a higher post count, but there are several reasons for that.
- “lol, you need to close your computer if you’re offended or saddened by others remarks ONLINE!!! HA”
let’s get this one off of the table. i was 12. don’t forget the young ones need to learn, surely. but it’s scientifically and psychologically proven that we learn, develop and progress better through positive motivation instead of punishment.
i reminisce being harassed and attacked every time i created a post, even when i did my best to make it good quality. in the end, i merely gave up and started posting like a radical for this to stop. (read the next paragraph)
yes, i admit that OT has gotten softer and less aggressive since then, however the hatred has still remained clear.
take that into consideration, dear ones.

- we are indirectly causing (perchance even encouraging) others to be so .. obnoxious.
by insulting them and calling them noobies, they will ask themselves “well, how do i stop this?”
and what would the conclusion be? a higher post count. no one is able to deny that a great majority of OT’ers judge others based on their post count. (join date could additionally be relevant, but it’s never clear whether the person is an alt or when they joined the forums based on it). what does this result in? terrible posts with no quality at all. does this solve your alleged problem with new people? no.

but exactly why should we stop? it’s actually become a part of OT’s internet-culture to utilize these scare tactics to force supposedly horrendous newbies away, so why? what consequences does it have, if any at all?
- “but i was harassed when i was a noob!!! i became better!!!”
you can’t base your own individual experience off of how others outcomes will be. yes, i know i quite did in my first paragraph, but i have arguments as to why it’s actually valid with objective facts of human behaviour.

- “they’re annoying”
no one is born with the trait “annoying”. it’s ultimately something you define for yourself (under the influence of society and peers of course). if you find someone annoying, that is YOUR and YOUR problem. not the person you’ve labeled annoying, not their family, not ROBLOX’ but yours. that is something you personally need to work on. you can’t expect any individuals in this world to change for you, especially those you come to find online. even if you manage to succeed causing them to change, you’ll have a long road ahead of you. surely you must know that you can’t change everyone. that’s going to be tough way to go through life, to constantly allow yourself your mind to be pestered by such. and you know what? if you find THIS annoying, what else would NOT bother you? ignore them and stop caring for your own mental health and well-being in the long run.
yes, this logic can twisted and used against me; why shouldn’t the new members do that? the thing is, they should and some of them greatly do. however, it’s hard to work against peer pressure as the new members are doing. your case is an individual case where you are not the one harassed, but you’re the one being annoyed.
the new members however are harassed and not annoyed. different case, not comparable. don’t twist my logic :]

- “i’m happy with OT the way it is, I don’t want new members”
that is essentially the same as saying “i deserve to be here more than others, my rights and needs are above other peoples desires. how dare they???
do you not see the twisted logic in this? i believe i am not obligated to elaborate further on that particular argument. oooh, and that brings us to my next point!

- OT is not an owned territory, it’s not your country and not your nationality either.
this is a platform available for everyone. everyone is allowed to post here as they please, so long it doesn’t break the guidelines of roblox. you are in position to prohibit others from posting content that is allowed merely because you dislike it.
“but you’re telling US how to behave, so what kind of hypocrisy is that?!?”
your behaviour here is absolutely edgy, in the literal sense. you’re just on the edge of breaking the rules and hence you’re difficult to moderate. keep that in mind.

- “i didn’t encounter this? what are you talking about?”
you can’t base your own individual experience off of how others outcomes will be. yes, i know i quite did in my first paragraph, but i have arguments as to why it’s actually valid with objective facts of human behaviour. [2]

- it causes the new generation to be just as harsh or even harsher to newer ones
do you want to CONTINUE this cycle of hatred and constant pessimism? i believe that’s one of our core problems; hatred. we possess so much negativity. that is normal, but our amount rules the positivity out. do you want to stop the amount of apparent “garbageposting”? then stop with the amount of hateful vibes you give out.
“but didn’t you say YOU personally were “bullied” on this platform whilst you’re defending them???”
i’ve always been an underdog throughout my whole life and i’ve learned you can’t repeat others mistakes. i won’t get further into that, my thumbs started to hurt long ago.

- we need the new ones :]
this speaks for itself, we clearly need them to keep the fresh and good things in this subforum going on!!! we need the new influx of members and we need some who enjoy spending their time here.
also, as OT’ers leave, new ones will replace. that is life. if you want that to stop, OT will end up just as slow as RT.

no tl:dr
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catman8321 is not online. catman8321
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10 Jun 2016 09:36 AM
But they all are just edgy meme lords and I'm getting sick of them
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mactireamaithte is not online. mactireamaithte
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10 Jun 2016 09:36 AM
kys
tl;dr
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aljaz22 is not online. aljaz22
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10 Jun 2016 09:36 AM
BORING BORING OP IS SNORING


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thatGirlMaggy is not online. thatGirlMaggy
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10 Jun 2016 09:36 AM
also I had this in my notes but I couldn't find the original thread, so this is a repost by me
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Pon_yo is not online. Pon_yo
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10 Jun 2016 09:36 AM
Someone with common sense.
Hands down to you


#code print (" Ponyo likes ham. ~<3")
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mecool99sux is not online. mecool99sux
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10 Jun 2016 09:36 AM
omg so long but thank you


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6_AM is not online. 6_AM
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10 Jun 2016 09:37 AM
tilder
idk


therefore praise the sun and add 37k!
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thatGirlMaggy is not online. thatGirlMaggy
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10 Jun 2016 09:37 AM
NONE OF YOU EVEN READ IT
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ToySackboyLBP2 is not online. ToySackboyLBP2
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10 Jun 2016 09:38 AM
I read it because I'm not 7

very good
this needs to be a sticky
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garblarafar is not online. garblarafar
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10 Jun 2016 09:41 AM
But how will know how long someone has been here if they don't trashpost about bags every 5 minutes
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TheNeonDemons is not online. TheNeonDemons
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10 Jun 2016 09:41 AM
But they all try too hard with being "edgy" and spamming "memes". I hosted a OT Movie Night on Dubtrack and the movie only lasted like 5 minutes, they can't even cooperate wfully th OT activiates yet in the old OT Movie Nights, the OTers would cooperate and we would watch the full movie, we would make some jokes then and there but at least it wasnt. "HERE COME DAT BOI!!! XD I SO EDGYYYYY!!!!"
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catman8321 is not online. catman8321
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10 Jun 2016 09:42 AM
I still think they are edgy memelords fighting for attention
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man1912 is not online. man1912
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10 Jun 2016 09:43 AM
But they are all edgy Oder otaku memelords and they are annoying and most of them love to minimod too so yea. We are ALL sick of them.

Reach for Juggernog tonight!
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Synkka is not online. Synkka
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10 Jun 2016 09:44 AM
"none of you even read it"

do you expect a subforum filled with immature eighth graders to read something this long


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thatGirlMaggy is not online. thatGirlMaggy
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10 Jun 2016 09:44 AM
if you consider that long, surely you've never picked up a book before
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SlurpeguyV2 is not online. SlurpeguyV2
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10 Jun 2016 09:45 AM
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lovisp is not online. lovisp
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10 Jun 2016 09:46 AM
1. I am not an eighth grader but I honestly do not have the patients to read it, sorry xD
2. I take it from what people are saying that you're being nice to new ot'ers so THANK YOU!



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lovisp is not online. lovisp
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10 Jun 2016 09:46 AM
ps. I have picked up a book before I just don't have the patients right now


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thatGirlMaggy is not online. thatGirlMaggy
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10 Jun 2016 09:47 AM
patience
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Darken_RBLX is not online. Darken_RBLX
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10 Jun 2016 09:47 AM
BUT IT IN A SHORT VERSION AND PEOPLE WILL READ IT


https://www.roblox.com/Darken-drawn-item?id=424981859 The FitnessGram™ Pacer Test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. The 20 meter pacer test will begin in 30 seconds. Line up at the start
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ToySackboyLBP2 is not online. ToySackboyLBP2
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10 Jun 2016 09:47 AM
"am not an eighth grader but I honestly do not have the patients to read it, sorry xD"

"patients"

yeah you're in fifth grade
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giftbox24 is not online. giftbox24
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10 Jun 2016 09:47 AM
I read it somewhat
we should not give new oters a hard time simply because they are new
we should give them a hard time because they are all idiots
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lovisp is not online. lovisp
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10 Jun 2016 09:48 AM
i'm sorry that my spelling is not very good, some people are not as perfect as yourself


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thatGirlMaggy is not online. thatGirlMaggy
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10 Jun 2016 09:48 AM
I rounded up every single argument and common oldbag rhetoric against OT'ers. they're divided into paragraphs so you can see which section is about what argument. there's a reason it's so long, just for once ATTEMPT to look at the layout and smaller titles
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