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Re: In 7-8 years, Canada will qualify for World Cups

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Texafy is not online. Texafy
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09 Jun 2016 12:35 AM
And the first time they do, they won't miss anymore.
The inclusion of Montreal and Vancouver of expansion teams in MLS to join Toronto coupled with the homegrown player system ensures that Canada will have a squad of stable MLS veteran players on the national squad. And in CONCACAF, that will see you qualify for a World Cup. You can see it already starting to pay off with Tesho Akindele, Cyle Larin, Kianz Frose, Marco Bustos, Ashtone Morgan, Sam Adekugbe, etc.

Canada is the only minnow in CONCACAF that truly has the potential to become stable World Cup contenders.

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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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09 Jun 2016 12:37 AM
"World Cup contenders."

please don't go this far rune i know you and i like your soccer expertise but please don't go this far this is more than what needed to be said
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Texafy is not online. Texafy
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09 Jun 2016 12:39 AM
...I meant that they'll become a team able to compete with other nations that consistently qualify for World Cups, not that they'll be able to win a World Cup
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perrandude is not online. perrandude
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09 Jun 2016 12:39 AM
ok
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CheeseyMacral is not online. CheeseyMacral
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09 Jun 2016 12:42 AM
they'll be winning the world cup in no time

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Pazzini is not online. Pazzini
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09 Jun 2016 12:43 AM
Holy crap, Rune prasing Canadian soccer?? I thought Id never see the day
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Texafy is not online. Texafy
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09 Jun 2016 12:45 AM
I've never had anything against Canadian soccer lol
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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09 Jun 2016 01:39 AM
problem is actually getting players to play for canada if they're dual citizens.

junior hoilett (i know he's playing now but it took its sweet time), asmir begovic and others that i can think of could've all played for canada and said no thank you.

i know it's happened to other countries but canada in particular seem to miss out more than most on good players who turned them down. jamaica as well with guys like sterling and that all preferring to mostly play for england.

unless it's mexico or the us not a lot of players from concacaf want to play in the gold cup over the euros (where most concacaf duel citizen players end up).

and before you say how misinformed i am or some crap, you see a lot of players in england from jamaica end up wanting to play for england over jamaica.
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Texafy is not online. Texafy
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09 Jun 2016 01:43 AM
Most Canadians aren't dual citizens though except for the guys with French heritage that come through Montreal's system
And the guys coming out of MLS academies usually get capped early on so I don't see that becoming a problem
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Texafy is not online. Texafy
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09 Jun 2016 01:49 AM
Maxime Crepeau, Cyle Larin, Ballou Jean Yves-Tabla, Alphonso Davies, Marco Bustos, Michael Petrasso, Fikayo Tomori (if he chooses Canada over England), and Kianz Froese are all future prospects to look out for

Especially Crepeau, Yves-Tabla, Larin, and Tomori
Those four are the most talented
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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09 Jun 2016 02:08 AM
i've only heard of larin but to score 17 goals in your first season in a league like the mls with a team that was full of average joes and a 32+ year kaka in their first year of existence, that's impressive. if they're all like him then i can see your point about canada becoming a perennial wc side.

it's like wellington phoenix playing in the a-league, helps the a-league get viewers and nz football grow as a whole having a professional club.

tbh though i've always wondered how canada isn't better at football. they have a whole part of a country that speaks exclusively french and yet they still suck ass right now.


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Texafy is not online. Texafy
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09 Jun 2016 02:16 AM
Because they've never had a local academy system, professional top flight clubs, or a pipeline for young players to transition through.
Canada isn't populated or sustainable enough to support their own league and the game hasn't reached its full potential up there

MLS and the United States is really doing them a huge favor by letting them tag along for the ride
Any future that the CANMNT has will be largely attributed to the help that they're receiving from US Soccer, and that's fine
We realize that Canada makes MLS stronger, and MLS makes Canada stronger
It's a fair tradeoff
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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09 Jun 2016 02:27 AM
tbf canada has like 12 million more people than us (australia), our game was amateur/suburban/ethnically divided until 2005 when we made the a-league, we played in oceania so getting into the wc was virtually impossible (and we still did it twice) yet we still have a great setup here for football if the idiots in charge of the ffa stop being a bunch of morons with the a-league.

canada honestly should be doing a lot better in football looking at it from an australian point of view who don't have a giant in their region to leech off of (unless you can't new zealand LOL).

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JoePaterno is not online. JoePaterno
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09 Jun 2016 03:36 AM
"tbh though i've always wondered how canada isn't better at football."


Canadian here.

It's because while America is stereotyped as the country that really hates the sport, which isn't entirely true but still makes it somewhere along the lines of being the fifth most popular sport in the country in contrast to most of the world's countries that have it as #1 or #2, Canada somehow manages to care even less about it.


Now take that information and apply it to the facts that,

1: Canada has a population that is roughly eleven times smaller than that of the United States.

2: Soccer, or at least outdoor soccer, isn't exactly a sport that can be played year-round in Canada.

3: If anyone in Canada DOES get heavily into playing an outdoor sport they could go professional in at a decent level, it's usually gridiron football or (less often) baseball.

4: There are several cases of notable players with connections to Canada opting to represent other nations. The two most notable examples that I can think of are Owen Hargreaves opting for England and Asmir Begović opting for Bosnia. There's also Junior Hoilett, who for the longest time gave Canada the middle finger, but eventually opted to represent Canada in September 2015.

5: Canada's five top clubs play in the US system and every other club based in Canada is basically unheard of and only supported by friends and family. This is reflected by the fact that the national cup competition only includes those five teams; Toronto/Vancouver/Montreal from MLS, and Edmonton/Ottawa from the NASL. And out of those five teams, only the three MLS teams have a nationwide reputation, while the two NASL clubs' reputation doesn't extend anywhere further than locally or partially-provincially, and I say this as a supporter of FC Edmonton, one of those two NASL clubs.
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CheeseyMacral is not online. CheeseyMacral
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09 Jun 2016 03:46 AM
>it's usually gridiron football or (less often) baseball.

CFL sucks though lol, canadian ball players are becoming more prevalent and stars like donaldson and votto have consistently shown they're some of the best in the MLB

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JoePaterno is not online. JoePaterno
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09 Jun 2016 03:49 AM
Even if CFL sucks to you, it's still the best alternative for those who don't get to play in the NFL.

It's like how NHL fans love ripping on European hockey leagues when the top five European leagues are the best alternatives for those who aren't in the NHL (They're all significantly better than the AHL).
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JoePaterno is not online. JoePaterno
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09 Jun 2016 03:50 AM
Not to mention the fact that the CFL is extremely popular in Canada which will get the attention of kids who want to play gridiron football.
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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09 Jun 2016 01:15 PM
yeah but that's the same with australia too.

aussie rules, rugby league/union, cricket and netball for girls.
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JoePaterno is not online. JoePaterno
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09 Jun 2016 01:17 PM
But at least you can play outdoor soccer year-round (usually).

In Canada that's simply not an option.
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