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Re: Pokemon is probably one of the few current Nintendo games

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flamesjeffery is not online. flamesjeffery
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08 Jun 2016 08:53 PM
that actually requires strategic planning

is that a good or bad thing


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Roadworx is not online. Roadworx
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08 Jun 2016 08:54 PM
fire emblem requires strategy


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luckeewolf is not online. luckeewolf
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08 Jun 2016 08:54 PM
depends on how you look at it
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TheOfficialDerpyTime is not online. TheOfficialDerpyTime
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08 Jun 2016 08:54 PM
I always just used the moves that stunned and then went all out
I'm a stratageeic plainer allllriiiiiighht
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ErronBIack is not online. ErronBIack
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08 Jun 2016 08:55 PM
yeah and in skyrim the guards do their jobs properly.


FINISH HIM!
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CheyBlue is not online. CheyBlue
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08 Jun 2016 08:55 PM
Pokemon is easy.
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rinwood123 is not online. rinwood123
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08 Jun 2016 08:55 PM
splatoon is warfare basically
and warfare takes strategic planning, but then again..
half of the users are 10 year olds who never listen
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Ginjji is not online. Ginjji
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08 Jun 2016 08:58 PM
Pokemon is a third party game sponsored by nintendo.


And you can't take pokemon seriously as a competitive game, and never should. You'll just get angry and scream "HAX" when you get burned by flamethrower and then miss your scald like 6 times due to +6 evasion.
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Stratiotikos is not online. Stratiotikos
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08 Jun 2016 08:58 PM
Just spam dragon claw and everything dies
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Ginjji is not online. Ginjji
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08 Jun 2016 09:01 PM
"Just spam dragon claw and everything dies"


Musharna will stall you out, and you'll run out of dragon claws. And besides, Clefable won't get hurt by dragon claw anymore, so you're basically just asking to get moonblasted.
In the main game, you won't have too much trouble, but OP is talking about the competitive scene, not the main game.
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Ryan_Kane is not online. Ryan_Kane
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08 Jun 2016 09:02 PM
now, here is a dank strat
use cynthia's team
gastrodon > all


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Ginjji is not online. Ginjji
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08 Jun 2016 09:07 PM
"use cynthia's team
gastrodon > all"


Using cynthia's team on wifi will get you destroyed by fairy types.

Gastrodon can easily be stall-broken, and garchomp will just get burned/spored.

Spiritomb is pretty much useless now because of its massive weakness to fairy + no mega evolution to back it up

Basically, we're saying a gorebyss could sweep that team.
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Ryan_Kane is not online. Ryan_Kane
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08 Jun 2016 09:09 PM
"Gastrodon can easily be stall-broken"
you don't need no stall bro
you can fissure / earthquake and toxic and bam
plus gorebyss is non-existant on the competitive scene
grass team? (gastrodon is 4 x weak)you use spiritomb and or togekiss



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Ryan_Kane is not online. Ryan_Kane
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08 Jun 2016 09:10 PM
Hell, it's PU in SMOGON...
(that means it sucks)


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Ginjji is not online. Ginjji
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08 Jun 2016 09:11 PM
Milotic will get stall broken easily as well,

Toge will get outsped before it can run its serene air slash,


Mach punch will decimate lucario.
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Ryan_Kane is not online. Ryan_Kane
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08 Jun 2016 09:13 PM
Gorebyss is still pu so what's your excuse now


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Persolvia is not online. Persolvia
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08 Jun 2016 09:13 PM
I love this thread


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Ginjji is not online. Ginjji
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08 Jun 2016 09:16 PM
My point is, if gorebyss can take it down with ease, you need to re-think


Except that assault vest rain gorebyss exists, which will outspeed greninja, and almost one shot everything that disrespects it.

I'm not talking smogon, I'm talking VGC, Real pokemon with little rule enforcement.
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Ryan_Kane is not online. Ryan_Kane
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08 Jun 2016 09:18 PM
Gorebyss can't..
PU means that this pokemon has no chance in competition and i think smogon is reliable.
now, i do think that some of it is ridiculous


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elephant_man is not online. elephant_man
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08 Jun 2016 09:20 PM
i agree, im replaying silver on my gbc and i picked tododile this time

i have yet to play any generations after black + white 1. ive owned at least 1 game from every generation up until black and white 2 where i did not buy it and did not continue. i plan on saving money for a 3ds so i can get up to date. this also means im not acquainted to the new "fairy" type pokemon, but they just seem like normal types who are good against dragon and ghost types? im not sure cus like i said im not familiar with them at all


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Ginjji is not online. Ginjji
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08 Jun 2016 09:21 PM
Smogon isn't half as reliable as you think it is, silly.
If you can 100% predict everything smogon goes for, it's not reliable, and everyone will lose.


If you can't predict an assault vest gorebyss, and go for a move to disable a focus sash, you're going to get punished.

Gorebyss was lowed to PU from UU since gen 3 most likely because of its low SP. DEF.


Assault vest takes care of that, and makes it almost as reliable as salamence.
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lagio is not online. lagio
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08 Jun 2016 09:23 PM
Pokemon is strategy in the meta-game but tactical in actual battle.

Fire Emblem is just tactics.
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flamesjeffery is not online. flamesjeffery
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08 Jun 2016 09:25 PM
"Pokemon is easy."

no it isnt


"splatoon is warfare basically
and warfare takes strategic planning, but then again..
half of the users are 10 year olds who never listen"


what exactly is splatoon about?



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thediamondlava is not online. thediamondlava
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08 Jun 2016 09:25 PM
what aboot ace attorney
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lagio is not online. lagio
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08 Jun 2016 09:26 PM
@flames

pokemon is easy if you grind for a while

my team was entirely counterpicks of my rival + water starter so when i got to the elite 4 i got my ass kicked because i didnt know how to handle against these uncommon types
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