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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
Joined: 01 Jan 2011
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07 Jun 2016 01:20 PM
how could you possibly have all of the resources in the world and direct access to the front page yet still fail to solidify a top 5 clan position

it baffles my mind. it has to be poor management, right? what else possibly could be the reason?
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NinjaWing is not online. NinjaWing
Joined: 17 Dec 2009
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07 Jun 2016 01:21 PM
its fear mang it's run by a bunch of idiots what do you expect mang
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actualIyJT is not online. actualIyJT
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07 Jun 2016 01:23 PM
their high command is literally filled with idiots
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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07 Jun 2016 01:23 PM
that's what i'm thinking but perhaps some of them can provide better insight
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LordHammy is not online. LordHammy
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07 Jun 2016 01:23 PM
'all the resources in the world and direct access to front page yet fsil to solidify a top 5 clan position'

so you're saying all of those recruits that make up 70% of the clan are resources to help us win wars against clans such as RAT and VAK which will clearly solidify a position
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spookycykaman is not online. spookycykaman
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07 Jun 2016 01:24 PM
yeah
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LordHammy is not online. LordHammy
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07 Jun 2016 01:24 PM
'their high command is literally filled with idiots'

and you're implying you can lead a clan better when you don't even know half the stuff in FEAR?
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Kiritsugu is not online. Kiritsugu
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07 Jun 2016 01:24 PM
I can't deny one of FEAR's biggest weaknesses is their lack of management. it's dreadful.




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spookycykaman is not online. spookycykaman
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07 Jun 2016 01:25 PM
he probably can

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actualIyJT is not online. actualIyJT
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07 Jun 2016 01:26 PM
lordhammy, you guys have quite the resources at your disposal and you still fail to be a top 5 clan - that's clearly poor management
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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07 Jun 2016 01:26 PM
your resources are not your members, they are the millions in robux possessed by people in charge of your group and the tens of millions produced in aggregate traffic by the places you own

how can you have everything and still fail to solidify a top 5 clan position?

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LordHammy is not online. LordHammy
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07 Jun 2016 01:26 PM
lack of management?

we have fully functional departments that are shipping out what they're supposed to

community affairs is making newsletters and hosting public meetings
advancements provides officers
tech is providing us with advancement tech, e.g nexus
justice is getting powers for military police
external affairs hosts more than 6 joint events a week
warfare is currently at the final stage of deciding who to go to war with
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LordHammy is not online. LordHammy
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07 Jun 2016 01:28 PM
the thing is, we don't have 'millions of robux' as you say, ever since the tix has been removed, anything we have now is VEZA gamepasses at our database and the ROBUX that our commander/HCOM earn from their BC.

No one without BC can buy uniforms now, cutting our resources on that part short

we've run advertising, also.
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Sketchee is not online. Sketchee
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07 Jun 2016 01:30 PM
FEAR is in the top 10, easily, as a super clan which is very impressive. Instead of trying to criticize others, let us know when you finally get a group into top 30, WannaBet.
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SHADOWTHEHEDGEHOGXX is not online. SHADOWTHEHEDGEHOGXX
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07 Jun 2016 01:30 PM
People have an image of F.E.A.R. that's outdated. People still picture the bad things we did with our clan back when it was first created. So because of this, people will continue to have a tainted view no matter what we do.

But if you actually wipe your eyes clean from the stupid stuff we did years ago.. You'll actually see this clan is a top contender for sure. It's just people's views has been tainted.

But we are slowly changing to become a top contender, and more and more people are really starting to find interest into our clan's movement.
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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07 Jun 2016 01:30 PM
that's not true. the gamepass sales throughout the course of the past 3 months alone has generated fear in the hundreds of thousands which it could use for its disposal. unless management is so corrupt it trades robux made by the group's developers for real cash for themselves (despite having nothing to do with producing the games), it is almost entirely certain that there's millions of robux at fear's disposal.
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Kiritsugu is not online. Kiritsugu
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07 Jun 2016 01:33 PM
I had attempted a career within FEAR about 4-5 months ago and I remember being missed multiple promotions and many delays through the office training group.




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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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07 Jun 2016 01:34 PM
sketch, by diverting the topic to talk about other groups it appears that you've entirely conceded my points and have no counter argument.

shadow, to clarify, does your argument state that fear has been a top 5 group for a long while but has not been appropriately recognized by the public, or that because of the negative perception members of the public have towards fear it's performance is severely hindered?

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LordHammy is not online. LordHammy
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07 Jun 2016 01:35 PM
'unless management is so corrupt it trades robux made by the group's developers for real cash for themselves (despite having nothing to do with producing the games), it is almost entirely certain that there's millions of robux at fear's disposal. '

Excuse me, good sir, but you do realise where these 'millions of robux' go?

The NEXUS, A2 and the new HOLO builders and programmers get paid so much money because of their services that they provide to us so we can have smoother experiences.

I can show you audits from the last month or two where our HCOM have run multiple sets of advertisements, but I'm not going to because it's pretty self explanatory where the group funds go.
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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07 Jun 2016 01:36 PM
exactly, lordhammy, thank you for confirming to everyone that fear does have millions of robux at its disposal yet fails to perform as *exceptionally* well as it should be.
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Sketchee is not online. Sketchee
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07 Jun 2016 01:39 PM
"Conceded to my points."

"I have nothing to say so I'm just gonna say I'm right and you're wrong."

Okay little buddy.
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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07 Jun 2016 01:40 PM
respond to what? you've incited another group when it has absolutely nothing to do with the argument since you clearly have nothing to say against it
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beloxy is not online. beloxy
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07 Jun 2016 01:41 PM
I think you overestimate how much is actually made. When there is a front page game, sure. There can be 100,000 ROBUX made in a day. Right now, there isn't a front page game. Sunset City has between 50 and 150 at any given time, but resources are being allocated into the Nexus universe right now. Yes, stuff is cashed out. Paypal is the primary form of paying scripters that work at the caliber required to complete things like the Nexus universe.


When this universe is completed to a point, focus might then switch to a front page game or something.

I personally feel that we are pretty strong right now. We've certainly won a decent amount of raids recently and have a really good win percentage at Alianor.

HCOM also gets along better now than I've seen in years. We cooperate. Stuff is getting done. War is coming soon to put us to the test.
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LordHammy is not online. LordHammy
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07 Jun 2016 01:41 PM
I didn't confirm we did, good sir. I put apostrophes around it because it was a claim you made.
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WannaBet is not online. WannaBet
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07 Jun 2016 01:44 PM
upwards of 100,000 of robux a day? holy crap, if anything i underestimated how many resources you guys have.

shadow who is in charge of technology i believe is doing his job properly. the same with whoever spearheads front page projects to generate traffic and revenue for fear - great work. whoever handles elites is also doing decent.

the people you have in charge of promotional systems, training systems, wars, diplomacy, negotiations, filtration processes, structural framework, etc. - all of those people have to be gotten rid of and replaced if you want fear to perform as well as it should be performing.
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