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BlackWulffe is not online. BlackWulffe
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25 May 2016 06:28 PM
History today is just so pointless, clinging onto "settlements with etc" and "morals of the story" really don't apply much anymore, I find documenting history a sort of tradition people do, and wouldn't you like to know what happened thousands or hundreds of years ago?
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Toxicidity is not online. Toxicidity
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25 May 2016 06:29 PM
I am not saying to burn all the history books. I am saying that they don't need to teach it in school. You can look it up online or buy a history textbook yourself.
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BlackWulffe is not online. BlackWulffe
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25 May 2016 06:31 PM
I agree, we don't need history as a general rule in schools, yet I believe (however this would not be effective) give great access of history to students alike.
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sherlockedholmes is not online. sherlockedholmes
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25 May 2016 06:32 PM
The fact that people value history so much, even if it's pointless, just shows how much we'd still need to know it since we'll encounter it. You can talk all you want about traditions and story telling and how useless they are today, but a group of people else where will still value it and may cause conflict in which it would be valuable to know the information if you were to deal with the conflict.
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Maham91131 is not online. Maham91131
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25 May 2016 06:32 PM
For some students it might be the only way for them to relax and get away from the stress of school, work, and home.
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sherlockedholmes is not online. sherlockedholmes
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25 May 2016 06:33 PM
How about making modern history and politics required, while making ancient histories an option?
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Toxicidity is not online. Toxicidity
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25 May 2016 06:34 PM
Just keep some history textbooks in the library so the students can check it out in their free time. School is about becoming intelligent enough to work for an employer. Whether you like it or not we all end up getting a job to pay the cost of college tuition.
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Ahkail is not online. Ahkail
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25 May 2016 06:34 PM
everything is useless except STEM


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BlackWulffe is not online. BlackWulffe
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25 May 2016 06:35 PM
We can keep attempting to apply history as an important deal with school systems today, but in all honesty the little difference it might make or "in this specific (& rare) circumstance, we could perhaps use it" really isn't going to happen and won't affect anything.
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sherlockedholmes is not online. sherlockedholmes
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25 May 2016 06:38 PM
The one problem I have with all of this is that people seem to only want to learn useful stuff, only the stuff you'll encounter later down the road, while many consider education to consist of both useful material and purely intellectual material.
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Toxicidity is not online. Toxicidity
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25 May 2016 06:40 PM
That is the problem with academia today. It costs 50,000 a year in tuition and the students are convinced that they can get a job learning Drama or Art History or any other worthless subject. It should be a crime to deceive children into getting these worthless degrees.
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sherlockedholmes is not online. sherlockedholmes
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25 May 2016 06:45 PM
While I do agree you're not going to get very far with art or music as a career, people should still have a choice to learn about it. Often people just go to get by and never even consider learning anything extra even if the material is available to them, while preparing for a career should be the top priority, people shouldn't be discouraged from gaining extra knowledge.
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Toxicidity is not online. Toxicidity
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25 May 2016 06:46 PM
You don't seem to understand. Going to college for a music or art major will make you a debt slave for the rest of your life.
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Digtzy is not online. Digtzy
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25 May 2016 06:49 PM
You guys could look up what youre talking about instead of spreading false information
Music changes the way people think and helps develop discipline... If you fight me you fight facts
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sherlockedholmes is not online. sherlockedholmes
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25 May 2016 06:49 PM
I stated that a stable career should be focused on, but other options to add extra to that should not be eliminated.
We should be creating knowledgeable contributing members of society, not simply a useful workforce to exploit.

But as others may say, it's that person's choice to pick a career that isn't very sustaining.
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Toxicidity is not online. Toxicidity
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25 May 2016 06:51 PM
If you choose to become a Music teacher you are choosing to waste your time and everyone elses time because your career has to be subsidized by the taxpayers who fund the school and pay your salary. It is great if you like music but do it on your free time. GET A REAL JOB and don't expect the tax payer to subsidize public education of music and other softie subjects.
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sherlockedholmes is not online. sherlockedholmes
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25 May 2016 06:52 PM
"You guys could look up what youre talking about instead of spreading false information
Music changes the way people think and helps develop discipline... If you fight me you fight facts"

The problem here isn't the banishment of these aspects, just the fact that they're not the most suitable career choices in today's society. Sure, it can bring that about, and I agree that it should be apart of someone's life, but there are other priorities that need to be dealt with as well.
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BlackWulffe is not online. BlackWulffe
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25 May 2016 06:52 PM
No, culture is very important to society, life is not a factory, if we are going to exist on this planet I do not care to see a futuristic world of continuously conflicting people, I would much rather see a beautiful preserved world full of life and culture - a true society.
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Toxicidity is not online. Toxicidity
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25 May 2016 06:54 PM
People can engage in the enrichment of "culture" on their own dime. Don't expect the taxpayer to subsidize that lifestyle. Pay a musician to teach you. Don't try to force public school to teach WORTHLESS subjects.
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sherlockedholmes is not online. sherlockedholmes
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25 May 2016 06:54 PM
They should still be available to the side, we are humans after all. We don't fully function on simply what is useful.
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BlackWulffe is not online. BlackWulffe
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25 May 2016 06:55 PM
I am merely setting apart that it is not pointless, it has it's benefactors.
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Toxicidity is not online. Toxicidity
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25 May 2016 06:56 PM
Get your parent to pay a music instructor in your FREE time. Music is NOT AN ACADEMIC subject.
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super79mario is not online. super79mario
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25 May 2016 06:57 PM
but you can use music as another language class in college instead of learning a different language
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sherlockedholmes is not online. sherlockedholmes
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25 May 2016 06:57 PM
And no, having them totally removed from curriculum cuts more people off from being able to try it out.
It would be harder for students to pursue anything extra, or even have them know it's an option to look into.
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Toxicidity is not online. Toxicidity
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25 May 2016 06:59 PM
That is the problem. IT IS NOT AN OPTION. Just like you can't play video games for a living. You can't play an instrument for a living.
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