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Re: OT: What do you think of anti-vaccine parents?

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MarioTheNintendoHero is not online. MarioTheNintendoHero
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18 May 2016 12:10 PM
Smartest people on earth.
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SimpleWayfarer is not online. SimpleWayfarer
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18 May 2016 12:23 PM
I don't understand why they should feel obligated to vaccinate their kids.

What happened to "my body, my choice"?
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LimitedSalad is not online. LimitedSalad
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18 May 2016 12:24 PM
To stop disease from spreading
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Randomnessu is not online. Randomnessu
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18 May 2016 12:24 PM
@Simple

Vaccines only work if as many people as possible have them
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epictinboy is not online. epictinboy
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18 May 2016 12:25 PM
"What happened to "my body, my choice"?"
what happened to health


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Vriska is not online. Vriska
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18 May 2016 12:25 PM
they should not be allowed custody of their children

also, improve health education in the united states to prevent anti vaccine parents to ever be a thing
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Banjobug is not online. Banjobug
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18 May 2016 12:25 PM
My sister is one of those. I don't really understand why she's doing it but I've resolved to just not bring it up because I know it will cause a conflict.

I know my parents are worried about the kid though.
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SimpleWayfarer is not online. SimpleWayfarer
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18 May 2016 12:25 PM
"Vaccines only work if as many people as possible have them"

How do you measure that?

Also, if your child is vaccinated, and another child isn't, wouldn't the first child be protected from any potential diseases that the latter child might carry?
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Vriska is not online. Vriska
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18 May 2016 12:26 PM
@simple

look up herd immunity
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SimpleWayfarer is not online. SimpleWayfarer
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18 May 2016 12:29 PM
So, are the vaccinated still at risk if there is an outbreak?
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Vriska is not online. Vriska
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18 May 2016 12:30 PM
"So, are the vaccinated still at risk if there is an outbreak?"

uh

no

but the people who cannot be vaccinated due to health problems will be
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LimitedSalad is not online. LimitedSalad
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18 May 2016 12:30 PM
Yes but not as great of a chance, with out vaccine you're a sitting duck
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MarioTheNintendoHero is not online. MarioTheNintendoHero
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18 May 2016 12:30 PM
YES.'cause it sheds the virus.
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18 May 2016 12:31 PM
Now this,fourm dead, now go away.kl

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Absham is not online. Absham
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18 May 2016 12:32 PM
Taking children from custody because of parents not trusting vaccination is stupid.

That would create much bigger problems both for the children and the parents.
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SimpleWayfarer is not online. SimpleWayfarer
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18 May 2016 12:32 PM
"but the people who cannot be vaccinated due to health problems will be"

Okay, but are the odds of an outbreak occurring when 90% of children are getting vaccinated?
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18 May 2016 12:32 PM
"How do you measure that?"

In an ideal world, everyone without compromised immune systems or serious allergies to the vaccines would have them.

"Also, if your child is vaccinated, and another child isn't, wouldn't the first child be protected from any potential diseases that the latter child might carry? "

Vaccines only protect against a few extant strains of viral or bacterial diseases. They cannot protect against strains that the current ones mutate into. A scenario:

Imagine three people. Their names are Prima, Secunda, and Tertia. Prima has a vaccine against disease X, but Secunda and Tertia don't. So let's say that Secunda gets sick with the current strain of X. Prima is immune to it, but Tertia isn't. It mutates slightly in Secunda, but not enough to make it different enough for Prima's vaccine to be ineffective. Secunda gives the new, slightly different strain to Tertia. It mutates again in Tertia, but this time it's drastically and Prima's vaccine no longer protects her. Tertia goes on to infect Prima with X, despite Prima having an X vaccine.

If all three of them had been vaccinated originally, the disease wouldn't have had enough time to mutate enough to bypass the vaccine.
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Vriska is not online. Vriska
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18 May 2016 12:33 PM
"Okay, but are the odds of an outbreak occurring when 90% of children are getting vaccinated?"


considering that several long since defeated diseases are coming back because parents refuse to have their children vaccinated

yes

there are odds of an outbreak happening

because they have been

LOL
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MarioTheNintendoHero is not online. MarioTheNintendoHero
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18 May 2016 12:34 PM
Well let's just forget this thread ever exists ok?!
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18 May 2016 12:35 PM
op realised he's wrong


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MarioTheNintendoHero is not online. MarioTheNintendoHero
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18 May 2016 12:36 PM
I'm not wrong, I just do not want an argument about someone's opinion.
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Vriska is not online. Vriska
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18 May 2016 12:36 PM
you are wrong
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SimpleWayfarer is not online. SimpleWayfarer
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18 May 2016 12:36 PM
"considering that several long since defeated diseases are coming back because parents refuse to have their children vaccinated

yes

there are odds of an outbreak happening

because they have been

LOL"

What ones?
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MarioTheNintendoHero is not online. MarioTheNintendoHero
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18 May 2016 12:37 PM
JUST FORGET ABOUT THE THREAD ALREADY!
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Vriska is not online. Vriska
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18 May 2016 12:43 PM
"What ones?"

whooping cough & measles off the top of me head
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