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Re: Turns out medical errors are the third larges cause of death

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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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06 May 2016 06:18 AM
There were 251,000 reported deaths due to medical errors in 2013, which places it at third, right behind heart disease (611,000 deaths) and cancer (584,000 deaths.)
Because of how deaths are reported when people are under medical care, the death is almost never listed as being a medical error. They usually report it as a death from the complication they were treating it for. The International Classification of Disease billing code applies to a lot of health conditions, but almost none of them correspond to medical errors.
This means, even if it was a medical error that the patient died from, it would be reported that they died from their preexisting condition. Even if they were given the wrong medication and died from it. This makes that "251,000" inaccurate. The actual number is actually much higher than that, maybe even being higher than cancer.
Heart disease and cancer get all the attention because deaths due to medical errors are rarely ever made known, so it never gets the funding it deserves. Maybe they should just hire more qualified doctors and raise the requirements for becoming one. I've seen some inept doctors.


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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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06 May 2016 06:19 AM
"larges"

And everything was going so well...


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Jonna2004 is not online. Jonna2004
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06 May 2016 06:19 AM
rip.
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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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06 May 2016 09:04 AM
"rip."

RIP indeed... :^(


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Catankitty is not online. Catankitty
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06 May 2016 09:05 AM
i already knew this because i watch greys anatomy
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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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06 May 2016 09:06 AM
"i already knew this because i watch greys anatomy"

Grey's Anatomy is pretty bad from a professional standpoint tbh.
Not bad overall though.


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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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06 May 2016 01:44 PM
b u m p


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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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06 May 2016 01:53 PM
I love researching and writing threads that provoke no discussion. :^)


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shuushi is not online. shuushi
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06 May 2016 01:54 PM
ok

and in this reaction, energy is being given off
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luckeewolf is not online. luckeewolf
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06 May 2016 01:55 PM
blame brain surgeons depending on luck
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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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06 May 2016 01:57 PM
"blame brain surgeons depending on luck"

I get that mistakes happen, but Jesus Christ... The ICD billing code NEEDS to account more for errors on the medical professional's part.
Hiring more competent doctors is a good start too. They prescribe medication way too liberally, and it can quite often lead to drastic effects.


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StraitOuttaBoston is not online. StraitOuttaBoston
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06 May 2016 01:58 PM
Isn't it like really dangerous to not report medical error related deaths?
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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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06 May 2016 02:00 PM
"Isn't it like really dangerous to not report medical error related deaths?"

Legally?
It should be, but it's not. All deaths under medical care are reported under the ICD billing code. If there isn't a code that corresponds to a given medical error, they are expected to report it as the patient dying of their preexisting affliction. The solution to the problem is really quite simple; expand the ICD billing code to accommodate medical errors so the proper people get reprimanded when things go wrong.
There are some medical errors that the ICD billing code does cover, but it covers very very few.


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Calvinbot013 is not online. Calvinbot013
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06 May 2016 02:00 PM
How strange.

Also, hi narwhal cousin :D
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06 May 2016 02:01 PM
"Also, hi narwhal cousin :D"

I AM YOUR GOD.


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Calvinbot013 is not online. Calvinbot013
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06 May 2016 02:01 PM
*le bow*
I'M NOT WORTHY!
I'M NOT WORTHY!
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StraitOuttaBoston is not online. StraitOuttaBoston
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06 May 2016 02:02 PM
IMO if I was to die due to medical error I'd rather have it known that the equipment screwed up and not that I was killed by the disease.
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Calvinbot013 is not online. Calvinbot013
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06 May 2016 02:02 PM
May I have your pre-frontal cortex?
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06 May 2016 02:03 PM
"*le bow*
I'M NOT WORTHY!
I'M NOT WORTHY!"

Most would challenge my rule. You have displayed significant faith. You, my son, ARE worthy.


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Acceleracers7 is not online. Acceleracers7
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06 May 2016 02:03 PM
the fourth largest cause of death is 2009 memes
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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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06 May 2016 02:06 PM
"IMO if I was to die due to medical error I'd rather have it known that the equipment screwed up and not that I was killed by the disease."

My great grandfather had a bad heart (and on top of that he also had an aneurysm) and he went in to go get a procedure to potentially save his life. He was doing amazing until they decided to do a second procedure, which ultimately killed him. It was reported that he died from heart failure, but it was perfectly obvious that it was a medical error. There's nothing anyone could do because technically, according to the ICD, they reported correctly.

"May I have your pre-frontal cortex?"

You have a powerful one of your own.
Use your wisely.


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Calvinbot013 is not online. Calvinbot013
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06 May 2016 02:06 PM
"the fourth largest cause of death is 2009 memes"
SO.
FREAKIN.
TRUE.
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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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06 May 2016 02:06 PM
"the fourth largest cause of death is 2009 memes"

No, it's chronic respiratory infection.
#1 is 2009 memes but it's never reported.


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epictinboy is not online. epictinboy
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06 May 2016 02:09 PM
im spooked
i dont want doctor


checkm9 | rip lelforumingalt,add 13k posts
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OT_Dares is not online. OT_Dares
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06 May 2016 02:09 PM
Come to the UK.
We have plenty of these deaths.
Seriously...
I hear children getting misdiagnosed. Like the staff think it is nothing bad and it turns out to be meningitis or something. They would also be given the wrong medication.
I personally think that staff SHOULD be trained better and they stop focusing on the obese people and fix the system (No offence to the obese peeps, some are cool. I know some.)
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