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Re: MLS should remove the conferences and playoffs

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alejandrotrill is not online. alejandrotrill
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30 Apr 2016 04:00 PM
Not a huge fan of these ideas, but I'm sure there's a good reason to them.

I like how most leagues in Europe are played.
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bookface6 is not online. bookface6
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30 Apr 2016 04:03 PM
agreed. to me playoffs and conferences are weird in top-division soccer.


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jimbobucky is not online. jimbobucky
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30 Apr 2016 04:11 PM
I (and many others) like the playoffs, but I really do feel it needs to be promoted more or given more of a playoff feel to it. Watching Portland vs FC Dallas last season in the WC finals felt like a downer.

But a real reason that the MLS can't just ditch the playoffs is that teams lose their best players (and quite a bit of them too) because of concurrent international breaks that coincide with MLS matches. A team like LA will be missing most of their starters on one of these days, most likely resulting in a loss for them that they would probably win most of the time. Bit unfair for the teams who have really good players.
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alejandrotrill is not online. alejandrotrill
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30 Apr 2016 04:13 PM
Fix the leagues schedule then!!! Make the season start later in the year
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jimbobucky is not online. jimbobucky
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30 Apr 2016 04:18 PM
Ikr, needs to be fixed. Although I think there was some kind of report where MLS teams can pick their BYEs. Why the good teams are not all picking the days with int'l breaks is beyond me.
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ftt is not online. ftt
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30 Apr 2016 04:24 PM
one of the reasons we can't change it is because of our canadian teams not being able to play in winter
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Cobra_Commander is not online. Cobra_Commander
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30 Apr 2016 04:25 PM
I wouldn't really like the system without playoffs
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alejandrotrill is not online. alejandrotrill
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30 Apr 2016 04:25 PM
I guess that's true. I think they should've all made indoor stadiums though.
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TotallyNotCap is not online. TotallyNotCap
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30 Apr 2016 04:32 PM
I've seen so many strange league formats in soccer that I'm completely fine with the MLS having playoffs.

However, I do feel like winning the regular season title should be more rewarding. Not saying it should be rewarded to the scale as the MLS Cup Final, but still.

And besides, America has a huge fetish for playoffs (to the point where even freaking NASCAR has playoffs) so the MLS Cup tournament will never go away.
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Cobra_Commander is not online. Cobra_Commander
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30 Apr 2016 09:02 PM
I'm American and I love me some playoffs
it wouldn't feel right without a tournament to decide the season champion
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Rodriquex is not online. Rodriquex
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30 Apr 2016 09:04 PM
If you don't like it deal with it
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alejandroJUGO is not online. alejandroJUGO
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30 Apr 2016 09:05 PM
you can't remove conferences
the US is too big and players already complain about the travel for road games
removing conferences will just make the problem worse
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TForcier is not online. TForcier
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30 Apr 2016 09:06 PM
This can be compared to Argentina(They're changing it now) and how they have a 2 conference set-up with playoffs at the end I'm pretty sure. Conferences should be removed but playoffs be kept.
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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30 Apr 2016 09:10 PM
"you can't remove conferences
the US is too big and players already complain about the travel for road games
removing conferences will just make the problem worse"

get a map out, use your finger to see how far it is from perth to wellington, nz, then know that the a-league here doesn't have conferences.
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alejandroJUGO is not online. alejandroJUGO
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30 Apr 2016 09:11 PM
Argentina's clubs are all within one area

There are 16 clubs alone in the Buenos Aires metro area
The largest distance between teams can be compared to the distance between Houston and Kansas City

You can't remove conferences and then have Houston travel to Montreal, then go to Portland, and then go back home to Houston in just 3 weeks.

That's insanity.
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jimbobucky is not online. jimbobucky
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30 Apr 2016 09:12 PM
Plus with the restrictive regulations on charter flights the MLS has, travel is especially bad ^
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alejandroJUGO is not online. alejandroJUGO
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30 Apr 2016 09:14 PM
"get a map out, use your finger to see how far it is from perth to wellington, nz, then know that the a-league here doesn't have conferences."

What a horrible example

All of the A-League's teams are concentrated in one area, except for Perth and Wellington
Only one or two long trips a year

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bookface6 is not online. bookface6
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30 Apr 2016 09:15 PM
"you can't remove conferences
the US is too big and players already complain about the travel for road games
removing conferences will just make the problem worse"

these are professional athletes, travel is part of the job.


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alejandroJUGO is not online. alejandroJUGO
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30 Apr 2016 09:17 PM
"these are professional athletes, travel is part of the job."

you're forgetting the part where half of the league is foreign and the players come from countries where all away games can be reached by a 2 hour bus trip
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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30 Apr 2016 09:17 PM
"What a horrible example

All of the A-League's teams are concentrated in one area, except for Perth and Wellington
Only one or two long trips a year"

ahh yes because perth and adelaide are so close next to each other. so are melbourne and brisbane, or adelaide and sydney. you sir are a master of australian geography/sarcasm end
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bookface6 is not online. bookface6
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30 Apr 2016 09:21 PM
the season schedule needs to be changed if the mls ever want to be a world class league. because literally every important international tournament is in the summer, if the mls signs talented international players in their primes, it will take a huge toll on the club teams, and viewership probably drops at that time

also i hate the salary cap and dp system, even though i understand why it's there soon the league will need to scrap that if they want to sign top players and become one of the best leagues in the world


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alejandroJUGO is not online. alejandroJUGO
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30 Apr 2016 09:21 PM
"ahh yes because perth and adelaide are so close next to each other. so are melbourne and brisbane, or adelaide and sydney. you sir are a master of australian geography/sarcasm end"

None of these are far away except for Perth lol
All of these distances are regular occurrences in MLS

Adelaide to Sydney is the same distance as Houston to Orlando
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TForcier is not online. TForcier
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30 Apr 2016 09:21 PM
Do teams not use planes??
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alejandroJUGO is not online. alejandroJUGO
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30 Apr 2016 09:23 PM
"Do teams not use planes??"

"MLS enforces strict air travel rules which limit the number of charter flights each team can take. The rules were relaxed slightly in 2008 but teams are still restricted to four private journeys per season. The regulations are intended to prevent wealthier clubs, which can afford more charter flights, from gaining a competitive advantage."
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123yonnd is not online. 123yonnd
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30 Apr 2016 09:25 PM
lol USA is huge.

the distance of perth to adelaide is the same as san jose to dallas. and they are in the same CONFERENCE. haven't even gotten close to the east.
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