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Re: They've found DNA on dinosaur bones.

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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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30 Apr 2016 05:31 AM
They just have no idea what it belongs to. They haven't been able to sequence it or anything, but it's definitely old. DNA starts to decay the moment the organism dies, but we've been able to recover and sequence DNA as old as 700,000 years from a horse frozen in the Yukon.

Scientists have proposed that DNA can survive even longer than that too, in the millions or tens of millions of years. It'd have to be in complete stasis (so places with lots of permafrost would be optimal), but it's still possible. The moment we find pure unfragmented DNA is the moment we can finally start cloning dinosaurs. Imagine owning a pet Trike.

We still have no solid idea as to how long DNA can survive under what conditions, but it's not impossible that there could be pure 65,000,000 year-old DNA frozen in Siberia. I just want a real life Jurassic Park.


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Jonna2004 is not online. Jonna2004
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30 Apr 2016 05:33 AM
GET ON MY RAPTOR, WE'RE GOING TO THE JUNGLE!


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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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30 Apr 2016 05:38 AM
"GET ON MY RAPTOR, WE'RE GOING TO THE JUNGLE!"

I'd imagine you'd have to have a super strict exotic animal ownership license to own a raptor, lol.


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30 Apr 2016 05:40 AM
Yeass
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Jonna2004 is not online. Jonna2004
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30 Apr 2016 05:40 AM
dang

but i really want a raptor lol
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ToxicXshooterZz is not online. ToxicXshooterZz
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30 Apr 2016 05:41 AM
Jonna, well if they can't clone any. You can be my raptor ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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30 Apr 2016 05:42 AM
"but i really want a raptor lol"

They'd have to find unharmed DNA for each specific species. With our luck the first cloned dinosaur will be a prehistoric mosquito.


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30 Apr 2016 05:43 AM
Oh no, we are doomed now!
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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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30 Apr 2016 05:44 AM
You also have to take into account the oxygen in the air now. The dinosaurs would probably be much smaller if they were cloned now. The biggest ones might not be much larger than an elephant. The only reason they were so big was because the air had enough oxygen to support their massive size. That's why all surviving species from the dinosaur extinction (e.g. crocodiles, certain bugs, sharks) are so much smaller now.


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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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30 Apr 2016 05:52 AM
SHAMEFUL UNSATISFIED BUMP.


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30 Apr 2016 05:54 AM
OMG dapper ur BAK!
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30 Apr 2016 05:55 AM
"OMG dapper ur BAK!"

I AM.
AND BETTER THAN EVER.





that last part wasn't true


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30 Apr 2016 06:15 AM
bump2


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30 Apr 2016 07:13 AM
hue


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alex8001 is not online. alex8001
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30 Apr 2016 07:14 AM
soon jurassic park wont need special fx


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mecool99 is not online. mecool99
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30 Apr 2016 07:20 AM
vasss??!??!


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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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30 Apr 2016 07:20 AM
"soon jurassic park wont need special fx"

I doubt we'd ever be able to replicate dinosaurs on that level, but that'd be really cool.


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redlego98 is not online. redlego98
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30 Apr 2016 07:23 AM
Considering there is less oxygen, would they even be able to survive? Or would it be a constant state of trying to breathe on top of a mountain.

A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
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mecool99 is not online. mecool99
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30 Apr 2016 07:23 AM
Wait no, I'm pretty sure this means that we can evolve ourselves and shoot DNA out of our wrists like spiderman.


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mecool99 is not online. mecool99
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30 Apr 2016 07:25 AM
And well Idek about my whether dinosaurs existed at the time, but there was a point where CO2 concentrations were only about 2-3 degrees (Celsius) higher than they are today.

Like a long time ago.


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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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30 Apr 2016 07:26 AM
"Considering there is less oxygen, would they even be able to survive? Or would it be a constant state of trying to breathe on top of a mountain."

I mentioned this a bit earlier.
They'd either be MUCH smaller or they'd grow to be the same size and just suffocate. The difference in oxygen levels between now and 65 million years ago are insane.

"Wait no, I'm pretty sure this means that we can evolve ourselves and shoot DNA out of our wrists like spiderman."

This is less of a matter of genetic modification, and more of a matter of cloning by using unfragmented sequenced DNA. Genetic modification is a different matter that is highly disputed in an ethical connotation. Don't see why though.


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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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30 Apr 2016 07:31 AM
"And well Idek about my whether dinosaurs existed at the time, but there was a point where CO2 concentrations were only about 2-3 degrees (Celsius) higher than they are today."

You talking about temperature or Oxygen - Atmosphere ratio?


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drpece231 is not online. drpece231
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30 Apr 2016 07:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUaFYzFFbBU
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DapperNarwhal is not online. DapperNarwhal
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30 Apr 2016 07:39 AM
I love Jurassic Park, but the DNA being preserved in amber is so scientifically incorrect, lol.
Amber doesn't put something in complete stasis, which is what would need to happen if DNA were to survive 65,000,000 years. That kind of preservation could only really be NATURALLY achieved through cryogenic stasis.


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ralftrol is online. ralftrol
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30 Apr 2016 07:40 AM
that means


we probaly have dinosaurs soon?
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