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| 20 Apr 2016 04:30 PM |
| Since you took away tickets NBC members need a new way to earn robux, it would be fair if NBC members could create their owns shirts and sell them for Robux. NBC members should be able to create shirts since most don't have ways to obtain robux normally. |
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Mr_Minion
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| 20 Apr 2016 04:30 PM |
| Ever heard of inflation? [2] |
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Donolan
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| 20 Apr 2016 05:02 PM |
@Mr_Min
This won't cause inflation if it does explain to me how it would. |
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| 20 Apr 2016 05:04 PM |
| No support, ever heard of the reason why nbcer's cant make shirts and pants in groups now? Copyright infringement. Also that's what BC is for, its pretty cheap. |
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| 20 Apr 2016 05:05 PM |
1/2 support
Happily ever after; the end. |
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rex2856
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| 20 Apr 2016 05:06 PM |
support
guns are illegal somewhere |
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Mr_Minion
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| 22 Apr 2016 04:44 PM |
I am sorry, but what are memebers? title is invalid.
Thread not found. |
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| 22 Apr 2016 07:57 PM |
| I spelled members wrong okay! stop talking about my rushed spelling of the word members and talk about what I actually said okay guys? people make mistakes. |
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Sad_ness
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| 22 Apr 2016 08:10 PM |
yes good idea give NBC'ers the ability to copy shirts and pants and get whatever shirt/pants they want for free
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FrankiePC
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| 22 Apr 2016 08:20 PM |
| benny there is no copyright in roblox, roblox owns all items in roblox, not the creators of the items. which is why stylis studios is so dumb. |
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| 22 Apr 2016 08:29 PM |
| I agree 100%. ROBLOX is just becoming greedier and greedier. they want kids to waste their money instead of have fun. Roblox is a great game, but you have to pay for everything. it is so annoying and unnecessary. Why can't evryone just have fun and relax? Why can't NBC members earn income? Why do BC members get everything? |
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| 22 Apr 2016 08:32 PM |
No support
Builders club $5...
when you need to poop but you need to hold it in b/c you're trying to get a triple-kill on PF [https://www.roblox.com/HE-item?id=270028905] Illumix Clothing Incorporated: // [https://www.roblox.com/My/Groups.aspx?gid=901026] |
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| 22 Apr 2016 08:41 PM |
Support: Some people cannot afford that $5 for BC. Roblox has become "Pay to win" basically. Think about groups, you NEED to get BC now to have money to purchase player-made items. Therefore if you don't and cannot get BC, therefore you cannot purchase anything other than the free items that roblox gives out like once a month or something. Inflation? Content creators will LOSE money because most of the users used tix to purchase their items anyway. Most of those players being NBC. Plus, roblox doesn't stop stealing of uniforms at all, they do not care. Because as someone said above: You do not really own the rights to said creation, roblox does. And they are STILL making money off of it even if someone else is also selling the exact same thing. So without the log-on rewards, the only people losing something are the player-content-creators. Roblox isn't losing a dime. Proof of the fact they don't stop content stealing: Look up phantom forces. Someone literally stole the entire game and made their own version of it. Herobrinescurse, CEO of Crimson Studio's. |
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0nesh0t
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| 22 Apr 2016 08:55 PM |
"Since you took away tickets NBC members need a new way to earn robux, it would be fair if NBC members could create their owns shirts and sell them for Robux."
1) no you don't "need" a new way or in general, R$ 2) it's not fair to those hundreds upon thousands who already bought BC+ to create clothing
"Some people cannot afford that $5 for BC."
But ofc have the internet amirite
"Roblox has become "Pay to win" basically. "
...no, no it never honestly was.
R$80 for $0.99 on the mobile store. If you're not even gonna cough up a dollar at the minimum but demand extras for nothing... there's a problem with YOU not the company
YOU.
Checkmate. |
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| 22 Apr 2016 09:01 PM |
"Cannot 5R$"
Then how can you afford the device you're using to play ROBLOX?
when you need to poop but you need to hold it in b/c you're trying to get a triple-kill on PF [https://www.roblox.com/HE-item?id=270028905] Illumix Clothing Incorporated: // [https://www.roblox.com/My/Groups.aspx?gid=901026] |
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| 22 Apr 2016 09:02 PM |
"Cannot afford 5R$"
Then how can you afford the device you're using to play ROBLOX?
when you need to poop but you need to hold it in b/c you're trying to get a triple-kill on PF [https://www.roblox.com/HE-item?id=270028905] Illumix Clothing Incorporated: // [https://www.roblox.com/My/Groups.aspx?gid=901026] |
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hipowow2
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| 22 Apr 2016 09:23 PM |
@0neSh0t
Sorry buddy. But the guy you just "checkmated" is right.
1. Robux is now used to purchase in game boosts, powerups, etc. These gamepasses effectively make roblox Pay2Win. By removing the free methods for acquiring this currency, the Pay2Win aspect of Roblox has been reinforced. While this used to be debatable, after the change, it is just a fact.
2. With this transition away from tickets, roblox will always be Pay2Win, and undeniably so, until some method for getting currency is re-added. Whether this be clothing, game creation, etc. Roblox must add a method to get Robux normally, or it will be Pay2Win.
And, it is pretty reasonable that some cannot afford 5$ per month. Looking over to the fact that a large portion of the audience is under 13, those people cannot get a reliable source of income for themselves. They will be forced to siphon their parent's credit cards in order to enjoy roblox. And for them, many parents would not get them builders club. I don't know about you, but I think players should be able to enjoy this game regardless of their age or financial situation.
Also, of course they have the internet. Today, the internet is a necessity in order to function in society, and is becoming more so with time. Most households have the internet. This does not mean everyone should also have builders club, again, with the siphoning off parent's wallet situation. Many parents would not waste money on builders club.
Again, roblox is pay to win, because of game passes, and the lack of ability to acquire them without paying money. And, it has been this way since the addition of gamepasses, and even ever since the old VIP shirts. Roblox has always used currency to affect gameplay, its just worse now, since players cannot save up tix to get these boosts on occasion.
Also, nobody should be faulted for their unwillingness to cough up $0.99 for robux. Nobody should be forced to pay using Pay 2 Win tactics as those roblox now employs.
Double Checkmate? Does that even exist? The answer is no.
Btw, I support the addition of shirt creation for NBCs, right now not even game development earns NBCs anything. I think they should be rewarded for at least creating something. |
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| 22 Apr 2016 09:24 PM |
ROBLOX needs BC to have extra privileges so people will buy it. Why? It costs ROBLOX money to pay for every game and page of their website. If they don't get money from less people buying BC, they lose money. If that happens, eventually, they lose the ability to keep the pages up, and ROBLOX collapses. Hope I did an ok job explaining this.
-Starting playing on ROBLOX in 2013-
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hipowow2
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| 22 Apr 2016 09:28 PM |
@Minecraft4982
The tix removal was not to keep roblox afloat.
If you read the blog post, the specifically said in the (admittedly sad) FAQ that roblox was making them a lot of money, and that everything was going well. |
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0nesh0t
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| 23 Apr 2016 08:58 AM |
"Robux is now used to purchase in game boosts, powerups, etc. These gamepasses effectively make roblox Pay2Win."
I've yet to find games where those kind of power ups are honestly necessary in a game.
"With this transition away from tickets, roblox will always be Pay2Win, and undeniably so, until some method for getting currency is re-added."
again, yet to see games where gamepasses are absolutely necessary
unless you link me a couple then I'll try them out and see
"And, it is pretty reasonable that some cannot afford 5$ per month. Looking over to the fact that a large portion of the audience is under 13, those people cannot get a reliable source of income for themselves. They will be forced to siphon their parent's credit cards in order to enjoy roblox. And for them, many parents would not get them builders club. I don't know about you, but I think players should be able to enjoy this game regardless of their age or financial situation."
However, there is the R$80 for $0.99 deal. A fraction of the $5.95 used to pay for BC. Admittedly R$80 isn't much but honestly, it's better than nothing and at least there is that cheap deal available
"Also, of course they have the internet. Today, the internet is a necessity in order to function in society, and is becoming more so with time. Most households have the internet. This does not mean everyone should also have builders club, again, with the siphoning off parent's wallet situation. Many parents would not waste money on builders club."
ehhyeahhy ok you're right your point there
"Nobody should be forced to pay using Pay 2 Win tactics as those roblox now employs."
But they're not. For the third time and second time in terms of linking a few games, I've yet to see any where the passes are absolutely necessary. I can't stand Field of Battle and even though other classes are R$90 each, you could still get by with the default class.
"Btw, I support the addition of shirt creation for NBCs, right now not even game development earns NBCs anything. I think they should be rewarded for at least creating something."
Remember NBC Clothing Creators? It was already shown what had happened when NBC'ers got the ability to create clothing without buying BC. When it was finally changed to BC+ members only to create clothing, the forums erupted.
On one of the threads with someone complaining that it wasn't fair that NBC clothing creating was removed, forum mod SlingshotJunkie replied with this:
"They were never meant to be allowed to do this, it was a work around of our system. If it had not been abused we might have let it slide but we were seeing more and more people use it to attempt to circumvent our rules which we could not allow.
On top of that, uploading shirts costs us money as a company and it was creating a rather disproportionate drain on us vs money it generated." -SlingshotJunkie
Proof: https://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=161267995
alright i typed this a good 10 or so minutes after waking up so it wont be long before errors are found so godspeed im gonna eat some cereal
Checkmate. |
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| 23 Apr 2016 09:13 AM |
Support for 0nesh0t. No support for this thread. |
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| 23 Apr 2016 09:58 AM |
| Support for Hipwow, my parents can't afford bc with 3 kids and I can't get a job for myself. |
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hipowow2
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| 23 Apr 2016 10:42 AM |
@0nesh0t
"I've yet to find games where those kind of power ups are honestly necessary in a game"
Something does not need to be necessary to make it Pay2Win, it just needs to give an advantage over other players at the price of real money. You already gave an example of this with field of battle. Other examples are: Base Wars, all those awful tycoons, and apocalypse rising. These are just a few games that trade robux for advantages.
"However, there is the R$80 for $0.99 deal. A fraction of the $5.95 used to pay for BC. Admittedly R$80 isn't much but honestly, it's better than nothing and at least there is that cheap deal available"
Yes, while that is a pretty fair and cheap deal, many people who are under a certain age don't have the means to pay the 0.99$ for robux. Others are also just not willing to do so. I think that there should be some kind of method for robux to be acquired without paying money. Though the issue is 80 robux often does not buy some of the overpowered advantages and gamepasses provided by some games.
"Remember NBC Clothing Creators? It was already shown what had happened when NBC'ers got the ability to create clothing without buying BC. When it was finally changed to BC+ members only to create clothing, the forums erupted."
I was unaware that this had happened before. You are right about that.
Though, I think at least the reward for visiting a place could return. maybe 1 robux per 21 visits, because that was the old ratio. The place visit bonus also never counted repeat visits, so a new account would have to be created every time. Adding a reCAPTCHA during account creation, and only one E-mail address per account would make exploiting visit bonuses the least worthwhile activity on the planet. A user would have to create 105 accounts and email addresses just to get 5 robux. The reCAPTCHA would make botting extremely difficult. Anyone who can get past that is way beyond botting on roblox.
Really, I just want some method for getting Robux as an NBC.
Probably going to stop discussing this, since I would be going off topic, and most of it would consist of an argument about the definition of Pay 2 Win.
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