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Chitoge_Kirisaki is not online. Chitoge_Kirisaki
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23 Apr 2016 03:36 AM
WARNING LONG POST

Okay so, I've been listening to cat girls licking my ears for... The last 18 hours or something but while I was listening this morning and browsing the forums I thought about something. I thought about the state of uniform designers and the "industry" as a whole so to say.

Now... I think I'm in a decent enough place to speak about this and try to find solutions as I'd like to consider myself a rather known and experienced designer (diglet8)

Note that I don't mean to offend people if I am to name names, I'm not too great at wording things nicely sometimes (hopefully this doesn't happen in this post)

Uniform designers, at least on C&G, are honestly charging far too much for what they are making and it's starting to get to the point where it's disgusting me and many others (granted some people have disliked what it's been like for a long time)

Even though their work may not be worth the price or they don't have enough experience to be charging what they do and get many sales from it but still keep at it. I don't know for the reason behind the high prices but I can name some suggestions

1) It's because they get flooded with orders, simple fix to this. Say no instead of increasing their price. Lots of orders doesn't mean the work suddenly becomes higher quality.

2) Other people get away with it, so why can't they? If the designer is following the prices of a more experienced designer with higher quality work, why? If they care about sales and getting known and that why charge the same as some people twice as good as them? Which leads to the next reason.

3) Desperation of the customer(s). Over time older designers who had been charging lower had improved, leading to their prices going up as their work became more "worth it". With them being big names they had been getting a lot of requests and rejecting a large percentage of them. With everybody's prices going up and less designers charging lower prices, the customer would often overpay somewhat to get a uniform after being rejected by higher ups. Maybe.

I'm not sure if any of these are the sole reason towards what we have now, but all of them have been helping towards it.

I'm going to be using an example of one person who has been doing this recently. This person being 42mg or Purely_Artistic. Before he had recently stopped making uniforms for people he had been charging 5000 for each uniform, now I'm not trying to insult him here (granted I do have personal issues with him) but his work is... not of the highest quality, let's say. Sure it's his work he can charge what he likes, but people have actually been buying from him because of the lack of other active designers at his price range.

You could say it's just smart business by him or whatever and sure, why not. It is if he thought it out that way; which I doubt.

What bothers me is how far the standards have dropped over time. 5000 is what is being charged now for his quality work, whereas a year ago or just over that, HappyOJolly and Razerium (Amazing designers) had been charging similar amounts, and before that Blobmista4 had been charging that amount. All of those people's work had been far better than what the designers around that price range (and even higher) have been making at this time.

I believe designers (especially new ones) should be focusing on improvement more than sales at early stages, because as they improve, people will be wanting to pay more for their work and they will be more known as a designer for their higher quality work and their experience. It's how blobmista4 did it, it's how Ripint did it, it's how I did it, it's how Razerium did it, and so on.

I know I'm partially to blame for this for charging huge amounts for my work, and being a more well known designer I suppose aspiring designers and others had been following me. I hadn't really considered what people wanting more money could do to the "industry" at the time but it's reached the point where most people have not been able to have uniforms made for their clans and have often given up or resorted to copying.

So, I want to try and fix this. I'm always looking to improve as well as I'm looking to help out as many people as I can in doing so. So from now on I will be making uniforms for people completely free of charge, my current customers can confirm this, hopefully I this will give people more opportunities to create clans and get uniforms without needing to be incredibly rich. Note I'm only human so there is a limit to what I can do.

I will also be streaming a lot more often as well as creating youtube videos a lot more as I once did, voiced tutorials and speed makes will be included. I want more designers to be in the business and especially those who will want to increase their skills instead of purely making huge amounts of money, for people into clans it's a way to help out the clans you're in, your friends and yourself if they or yourself ever decide to make a clan yourself. Money saving ;)

I hope other current designers (especially the more experienced ones) will help me out in trying to fix the state we're in now but if not I cannot blame you.

Thanks if you actually read this

TLDR WAAAAAAAAAA UNIFORM MAKERS TOO GREEDY I MAKE FREE UNIFORMS NOW PLS MAKE UNIFORMS TOO THX I HELP U

















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Chitoge_Kirisaki is not online. Chitoge_Kirisaki
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23 Apr 2016 03:38 AM
Excuse the huge space at the bottom of the post; I pressed enter a lot before writing the thing.

If any designer out there wants tips on their work I'll be happy to help out, by the way.

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RefugeeZ is not online. RefugeeZ
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23 Apr 2016 03:45 AM
No, just make me uniform and I will pay the large ammount!
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Joshchum is not online. Joshchum
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23 Apr 2016 03:49 AM
Might learn how to make unis.

Could you make a uni for my primary? Dark scifi? :P
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Chitoge_Kirisaki is not online. Chitoge_Kirisaki
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23 Apr 2016 03:50 AM
Once I've finished the uniforms for people I'm working for right now I will see what I can do if it's a nice concept.

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Joshchum is not online. Joshchum
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23 Apr 2016 03:56 AM
And link 2 utube?
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Chitoge_Kirisaki is not online. Chitoge_Kirisaki
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23 Apr 2016 03:57 AM
diglet881 but I might make a new channel I'll see

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GodXeriosss is not online. GodXeriosss
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23 Apr 2016 04:04 AM
I need a uniform broski
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Morikiyo is not online. Morikiyo
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23 Apr 2016 04:07 AM
I've considered just doing it for free myself but 5 or 6 hours for just a top isn't worth a smile to me

I think my prices are fair at least


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Fracticial is not online. Fracticial
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23 Apr 2016 04:14 AM
i think the reason people overcharge is because they think their artwork qualifies to be in a specific price range
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Fracticial is not online. Fracticial
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23 Apr 2016 04:17 AM
in other words they have low standards
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Master_Zydrak is not online. Master_Zydrak
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23 Apr 2016 04:18 AM
What's your price morikiyo?


Zydrak is coming...
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Erediin is not online. Erediin
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23 Apr 2016 04:20 AM
lol im gonna pay USD for legoland clothes XD



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Shirosen is not online. Shirosen
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23 Apr 2016 04:21 AM
i would like black and blue trench coat


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Morikiyo is not online. Morikiyo
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23 Apr 2016 04:26 AM
1k for an outfit zydrak


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Chitoge_Kirisaki is not online. Chitoge_Kirisaki
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23 Apr 2016 04:27 AM
That's probably one of the reasons Fract

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Master_Zydrak is not online. Master_Zydrak
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23 Apr 2016 04:28 AM
Any examples


Zydrak is coming...
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Chitoge_Kirisaki is not online. Chitoge_Kirisaki
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23 Apr 2016 04:29 AM
Honestly mor one of the reasons I do uniforms still is because it's something I'm interested in doing and it feels good when you see your progress and improvement

To me it's more than just a smile but maybe that's just me.

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Morikiyo is not online. Morikiyo
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23 Apr 2016 04:30 AM
on my profile but lets try not to stray too much on diglet's stuff, you can pm me if u need anything else

i feel rude doing business on a very valid point he's trying to make


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Master_Zydrak is not online. Master_Zydrak
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23 Apr 2016 04:31 AM
Alright


Zydrak is coming...
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Purely_Artistic is not online. Purely_Artistic
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23 Apr 2016 04:39 AM
#Hype :D


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Impravidus is not online. Impravidus
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23 Apr 2016 04:39 AM
chitoge i have an idea for an outfit you could make


it's been something i've wanted made for a loooooooooong time


i'd like to request that you make a metal gear solid 5 sneaking suit (search on google for pics of it) pls ty ily
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Chitoge_Kirisaki is not online. Chitoge_Kirisaki
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23 Apr 2016 04:40 AM
Sorry purely but you were the best example I could think of

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Purely_Artistic is not online. Purely_Artistic
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23 Apr 2016 04:44 AM
It's all good :D

I just got too much orders...


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Furtherance is not online. Furtherance
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23 Apr 2016 05:06 AM
do you think a month of bc should be payment for uniforms diglet
regardless of quality as long as its purely_art's quality and higher
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