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Re: Why are new groups ignored extra hard

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Vidkun is not online. Vidkun
Joined: 09 Nov 2009
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22 Mar 2016 09:35 AM
Unless they're hyped or have a plethora of money?
Then if users by some miracle join, they'll leave if something doesn't happen for them, even though it's somewhat their responsibility to help.

O topic of new groups,

If they don't get ignored, they get bashed. Why? Even if they're actually kinda good, people will nitpick. Just to use my group as an example-- it's not the best but a lot of people will bash it just for being related to WWI/WWII or just for being of any relevance to Germans. Any explanations to this besides shut up crossdresser?
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Vidkun is not online. Vidkun
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22 Mar 2016 09:39 AM
If you feel like you have solutions, why not try to be that solution?
I see a lot of people in toxic clans that assist in this lemming train offering advice when they really should follow their own advice.
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CHONGUS is not online. CHONGUS
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22 Mar 2016 09:40 AM
Because ww2 isn't an interesting genre for most. It's got a lot of gameplay QOL problems that make raiding and defending those bases super obnoxious. otherwise they're basically just a normal clan and why join that when you have like good clans taking members.

I can't blame them either. most new groups die really fast because the leaders have no faith. preestablished clans are just a lot more stable which means a lot to some people
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Wuss_DWimp is not online. Wuss_DWimp
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22 Mar 2016 09:43 AM
I have been seeking groups that need help in having activity raised by building them models, places, battle maps, and lobbies.

I am almost done kick starting Black Republic by providing a lobby and a custom original map for their hangout and it is going very well for them.

Case in point, if you can do something useful for the group such as building, then go ahead
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EmperorRyzoft is not online. EmperorRyzoft
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22 Mar 2016 09:43 AM
These new groups know what C&G is. They don't want to be mangled up in their biased toxic community quite frankly. Some people on C&G are cool but its mostly toxic venom and only bad comes from here.


For example most star wars/the seven kingdom clans stay away from here and rarely have exploited servers in wars. They are also very very active and very few are super skilled.

C&G offers some cool people but then the toxic comes in people like Alex and VOID's come in and just ruin peoples day. The new GG leader took the option to stay away from C&G now which I think is a good idea also. That is why you don't hear much about GG anymore.


Clans that stay away from C&G have ro-play, finish wars, rarely have exploiters, only a few skilled fighters in the community and it allows small new clans to grow.


Founder and Ex-leader of Green Gods.
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Ghost0ps is online. Ghost0ps
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22 Mar 2016 09:46 AM
thats why I try to recruit fpsers because they're not actually toxic like the people on here, the people on here usually "question" your leadership or call you out on how bad you are just because of one defense or something...not to meantion most people here like to take control of everything so
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TherealKimJongUn is not online. TherealKimJongUn
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22 Mar 2016 09:46 AM
Honestly its hard to start up a new clan in the first place


without funds for ads, it makes it impossible to get new members

unless you have superior tech, and building or something that attracts people to join it

Even if you do get ads and stuff, you will have to deal with criticism from c&G if you forum, and if you don't the group will be a ghost until something happens or attracts another clans attention.

A lot of new groups don't have that. A lot of them ask people to build stuff and guns for them so they dont really have their own developers or scripters

Not all new clans are like so, some look pretty cool.You can compare new clans with reality


if you're very lower class, chances of rising up can be hard and slim, and some luckily make it up easily while others fail miserably and are ignored

You can say the same with new clans

idk what a good solution would be tbh

And since you brought up ww2, C&G is not that fond of the WW2 genre the way I see it.


-Kim Jong Un
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HailMontgomery is not online. HailMontgomery
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22 Mar 2016 09:50 AM
The WWI and WWII genres have been so messed up by noobs and pay to win groups that they are basically a parody of themselves now. My friends and I literally can't take a single one seriously because for so long these groups have taken themselves too seriously, to the point where it's fun to laugh as they embarrass themselves trying to fight.

Your reply was the most disappointing thing since my son.
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Vidkun is not online. Vidkun
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22 Mar 2016 09:51 AM
Chongus, that's just making the assumption all WWII groups are exactly the same when, half true, is still a major assumption

Off the bat, The Korps is much different from most WWII groups IF you take time to observe it rather than making assumptions based on bias.
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piratetrev2 is not online. piratetrev2
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22 Mar 2016 09:53 AM
Vidkun, it is a simple answer: people want to get noticed.
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CHONGUS is not online. CHONGUS
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22 Mar 2016 09:54 AM
I didn't tell you why I don't think your clan is good, I told you why people ignore it, because its a ww2 clan and because people don't like those for the reasons I listed
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Disav0w is not online. Disav0w
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22 Mar 2016 09:54 AM
http://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=185837425

Read my post of "Good clans" in that topic, and it should sum it up.


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HailMontgomery is not online. HailMontgomery
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22 Mar 2016 10:01 AM
OP, you haven't given us any reason to believe your group is different. It hasn't even started yet. I was making a group a while back (and will continue working on it in the future, hopefully it can start then) and I laid out everything about it, what it was about, what it was based on, other groups similar to it, and how we pulled inspiration from those groups, how it is different from those groups, and people really connected with it.

I don't know, I'm just procrastinating working at this point, but tell us how it is going to be different, not just that it is going to be different. I don't see any fort, your ranking system doesn't seem to be all that original, and unless I'm missing something, there is nothing that lays out what your clan is even going to be about.

Your clan should start with a goal and you should write that goal down. Possibly publish it for all to see, and people will join you, they might give you encouragement, and they will know that you're doing something. Getting your name out there is a big part of getting members.

Your reply was the most disappointing thing since my son.
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og_sparrow is not online. og_sparrow
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22 Mar 2016 10:03 AM
Support!



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piratetrev2 is not online. piratetrev2
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22 Mar 2016 10:07 AM
I love how everyone is bashing her group, only proving her point, and in doing that is derailing this thread. Everyone, this is what you need to do:

Go to your corner and rethink your intelligence.

You prove nothing by bashing her group other than proving yourselves to be idiots as what you say is unjustified due to the fact that you have no knowledge of the group. Just because she chooses the WWII theme doesn't mean that it would be horrible, that is like saying that because a person chooses chocolate instead of vanilla then that person is horrible because you have never tasted chocolate.
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Disav0w is not online. Disav0w
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22 Mar 2016 10:29 AM
@Pirate Read my response rather than generalizing everyone.
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HailMontgomery is not online. HailMontgomery
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22 Mar 2016 11:23 AM
Literally no one is bashing her group.

Your reply was the most disappointing thing since my son.
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KINGISOLAYTOR is not online. KINGISOLAYTOR
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22 Mar 2016 11:24 AM
Because you don't try hard enough.
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Zullway is not online. Zullway
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22 Mar 2016 11:25 AM
I like it a little extra hard tbh
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piratetrev2 is not online. piratetrev2
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22 Mar 2016 11:25 AM
'OP, you haven't given us any reason to believe your group is different.' - Hail

Also whatever CHONGGUS said, I couldn't copy-paste that.

That is group bashing.
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DivinePheonix is not online. DivinePheonix
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22 Mar 2016 11:26 AM
1. Is your group interesting?
2. Does your group have good tech?
3. What makes a C&Ger want to join?


if u don't got any answers then >>>>DONT RECRUIT FROM C&G<<<<<<<
not rocket science, recruit at group recruiting plaza
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lNFERNALIZED is not online. lNFERNALIZED
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22 Mar 2016 11:26 AM
imo people don't want other clans to get good so that they can keep their own clan high up on the lists
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Aslum is not online. Aslum
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22 Mar 2016 11:26 AM
didnt really read anything else except from the opening paragraph from chongus but heres the real answer:

back in the day (probably before me) there werent as many clans as there is now obviously, especially war clans, so it was fun when new clans opened and they WERE hyped on c&g (obviously the method has changed on C&G now if ya feel) and they werent really ignored

but here is the other real answer which is a shorter version of above and which my point leads too...............................................:


Too many groups now, they're all nothing special, I'll stick to the cool or old ones thanks
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HailMontgomery is not online. HailMontgomery
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22 Mar 2016 11:30 AM
I was encouraging OP to tell us about the group. We have literally no details about the group. It might've come off as a little mean, but if anything I meant it as tough love.

CHONGUS literally just answered her question. He was criticizing WW2 groups, not bashing OP's. Since we don't know anything about it, we can't really bash OP's, can we?

Your reply was the most disappointing thing since my son.
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destroyer0003 is not online. destroyer0003
Joined: 17 Apr 2010
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22 Mar 2016 11:34 AM
Ya, true.. new groups do get bashed alot on C&G... but that's just this toxic community.

WW1/2 groups...eh... I know very few that are decent. But that's probably because I haven't really explored. Was in ONE WW2 group which I could call decent with a great community. Not saying that other WW1/2 groups have good communities, but I'm saying they weren't for me.


Knight Of Orion
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