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Re: I'm tired of people saying "REMOVE R15" and "KEEP TIX."

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MrSquer is not online. MrSquer
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20 Mar 2016 09:54 AM
Before you say "tl;dr" and flare me, stop yourself. This takes less than 5 minutes to read. I stand with my opinions, and I have perfectly good reasons as to why.

--This is the TIX portion, scroll down to see R15--
Removing tix is indeed the biggest leap ROBLOX has ever made, but it's the most important one. ROBLOX's virtual economy is a huge portion of the platform. In the past years, there has been a HUGE inflation, because LMaDers and developers manipulating tickets to be worth nothing.

Removing tickets will fix ROBLOX's economy. The trade currency ratio is 20 tickets for 1 ROBUX, when it used to be 8 tickets for 1 ROBUX. Bots were also used for the daily login bonus.

You're going to say "oh but what about the NBCers?" NBC users won't get daily login bonuses anymore, but they will still be rewarded (with ROBUX, mind you) for doing other things on the site or in-game, like badges for ROBUX.

If you claim that ROBLOX is greedy or I'm greedy because I'm OBC, that's where you're wrong. ROBLOX uses every penny it makes to help improve the platform. It has to pay for huge servers, employees, an office, developers, and much much more. You may say they do keep money, yes, but in the long run it all comes back to help the platform. I'm not greedy if I have OBC, because I'm spending $20 per month to help ROBLOX. It's YOU guys who are greedy for wanting free things without contributing to the platform at all.

As for developers, they're not hit at all. Sponsored games use ROBUX, not tickets. Their income from tickets counts for less than 5% of the money they earn. DevEx uses ROBUX, not tickets. Your favorite developers like loleris, taymastar, litozinnamon, and CloneTrooper1019, aren't affected at all.

If you're still concerned about buying clothes on the catalog, keep in mind that many items are free and will be free in the future. The price floor was also lowered to 5 ROBUX.


--R15--
R15 is another huge but important update for ROBLOX. Going from lego people to realistic packages to bending limbs has been very controversial on ROBLOX in the old community. But, ROBLOX isn't your friendly lego-like company anymore. ROBLOX is striving for REALISM now. Look at some examples (not in order):

-Smooth Terrain
-Terrain Biome Generation
-Custom Particles
-Shaders (see the hack week blog)
-3.0 Characters
-Neon Materials

R15 is up next on that list.

As an animator, I'm very fond with people having used bending limbs in ROBLOX characters before. I myself didn't use them, but I knew how they worked. People loved animations like that. I don't understand why it can't be the same for ROBLOX.

If you say it's ugly, keep in mind that the demo is a very bad demo. It's a heavy WIP and many improvements will come in the future. The gap between parts will be filled. It'll be reanimated. Hats and packages and clothing will work.

Again, ROBLOX is striving for realism now. This is one of the most realistic things that ROBLOX has to offer yet. Animators will be given more freedom to make realistic animations. Clothes designers will be given something better to work with. Human gestures will make it realistic, as well as clothing.

If you still are unconvinced, keep in mind that you have the option to choose between R15 and R6.


Now you're finally at the bottom of the thread. If you have any inquiries or comments, please reply. Also, check out these threads:
http://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=154895725
http://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=158496651

Thanks for reading.


~MrSquer
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shanoogy123 is not online. shanoogy123
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20 Mar 2016 09:57 AM
Great points and explanation on the R15 section. Definitely can tell you put a lot of consideration into it.

As for the TIX portion, what will happen when hardcore NBC players complete all these achievements and badges and cash out? I'm almost sure that the rate of achievements and such won't be constant.



Let's take this thread to the bedroom
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DopisticAw is online. DopisticAw
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20 Mar 2016 10:00 AM
'Keep tix'

@Lego confirmed it was no joke and its legitimate update happening. I don't get it people thinking it a April fools prank
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TheTrueLuigiFan is not online. TheTrueLuigiFan
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20 Mar 2016 10:00 AM
"ROBLOX is striving for REALISM now."

Where is the uniqueness? It's going to look bland as hell.


Welcome to th- NO INTRODUCTION NEEDED. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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marktheartest is not online. marktheartest
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20 Mar 2016 10:00 AM
"Removing tickets will fix ROBLOX's economy."

wait what?

lol you do know that if ROBLOX does go through with this, their economy will be completely independent on ROBUX? Something nearly 1/2 of the community can't even get their cheeto infested grubby little fingers on without tickets?

if anything it would CRASH the economy.

and where does it say NBCers will be rewarded with robux?

i sure as hell don't see it on the blog post.

"I feel like one of those Magazine authors."
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iPenguinSuperTime is not online. iPenguinSuperTime
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20 Mar 2016 10:01 AM
Go to sleep then
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WarchiefThrall44 is not online. WarchiefThrall44
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20 Mar 2016 10:02 AM
what's R15?


http://www.roblox.com/unnamed-item?id=320580106
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MrSquer is not online. MrSquer
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20 Mar 2016 10:02 AM
@marktheartest Tickets caused inflation on ROBLOX. It was also stated on the blog post that NBCers will still be able to receive ROBUX.


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marktheartest is not online. marktheartest
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20 Mar 2016 10:03 AM
nono, the tix rates were pretty damned stable until they bloody told us about this update.

and you think the "robux rates" won't be going crazy once tix are gone?

they'll be even WORSE than the tix rates could EVER be.

"I feel like one of those Magazine authors."
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THERELAXINGENDGHOST is not online. THERELAXINGENDGHOST
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20 Mar 2016 10:05 AM
tl;dr
kappa
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btoop is not online. btoop
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20 Mar 2016 10:06 AM
While you bring up some good points in your post, there is still the flip side of the coin such as this making it harder for new users to get their places seen and how this will effect how games are made, which I talk about in my post: http://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=185706400
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MrSquer is not online. MrSquer
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20 Mar 2016 10:07 AM
@marktheartest read this http://forum.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=154895725


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MrSquer is not online. MrSquer
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20 Mar 2016 10:12 AM
@btoop Very good points. NBC developers will be impacted immensely, so it looks like ROBLOX might become P2P.


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MrSquer is not online. MrSquer
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20 Mar 2016 10:19 AM
Bump


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matmat109 is not online. matmat109
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20 Mar 2016 10:20 AM
Removing tickets will not help, because developers will make their games either A paid access

OrB: Pay2Win/enjoy
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MrSquer is not online. MrSquer
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20 Mar 2016 10:21 AM
@matmat109 Correction: the NBC developers. If you're a successful enough developer that you can get on the front page, I'm pretty sure you could afford BC. The developers who have BC don't care.


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Dombro1 is not online. Dombro1
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20 Mar 2016 10:22 AM
@MrSquer I technically don't have to pay a dime to play this game, as I'm happy with my current avatar. If I want to get any game passes, then I'll just use my immense amount of iTunes gift card money! Therefore, payments are still optional. Plus, Roblox said they would add more free stuff in the catalog, so it really shouldn't be too much of a problem.

Also, advertising a game costs money whether it's in Roblox or not, so making Robux primary is also more realistic
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Rest in spaghetti, do not regretti, never forgetti, to: tix...
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matmat109 is not online. matmat109
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20 Mar 2016 10:23 AM
@Op, but what if the owner is a greedy BCer?

*cough*loleris*cough*
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MrSquer is not online. MrSquer
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20 Mar 2016 10:24 AM
@matmat109 oh loleris has been stealing money for years already lol


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matmat109 is not online. matmat109
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20 Mar 2016 10:27 AM
But let's focus on a different person, for example the owner of Phantom Forces (which I've heard is a good game). Now, let's say he earns an adverage of 10K tickets a week. Now, let's remove that from the equation, but he wants to make his game as profitable as possible, so he starts saturating the game with gamepasses, making it more difficult for free users to enjoy.

I'm worried the same could happen, but on a much wider scale.
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MrSquer is not online. MrSquer
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20 Mar 2016 10:29 AM
@matmat109 That wouldn't happen, because 10K tickets a week is nothing. He probably makes more than that, but compared to the ROBUX he makes, still nothing. StyLiS Studios is fine.


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matmat109 is not online. matmat109
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20 Mar 2016 10:30 AM
But what about small developers?
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slide_show is not online. slide_show
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20 Mar 2016 10:30 AM
lol. tl;dr.


it couldn't be april fools, it's happening on april 13th. not first. wat
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MrSquer is not online. MrSquer
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20 Mar 2016 10:31 AM
@matmat109 They're probably just going to buy BC (not really that much money) or try to make more money (the greedy ones, don't play their games).


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MrEpic9 is not online. MrEpic9
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20 Mar 2016 10:35 AM
imo idc about keep tix people nothing is gonna happen anyway lol

idk why people saying remove r15 a lot of people like it including me, guess stupid people gotta complain about something.


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