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Re: CJ didn't even lead RAT that badly.

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Ghosty2Spooks is not online. Ghosty2Spooks
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18 Mar 2016 04:29 PM
Did RAT lose wars under him? Absolutely. But warfare had NEVER been one of RAT's strong points.

Did he show bias towards certain members? 100%. You know who else did that? ColourTheory.

Towards the end of CT's leadership, RAT had fallen greatly inactive. When the clan was handed over to CJ, CJ brought RAT back to stable activity.


The truth is, people only criticized cj's bias because they didn't LIKE who he was biased towards. ColourTheory was biased towards the old hicom (aka the hicom that spoke out against cj), whereas cj was biased towards the new high ranks that he brought in. Those older high ranks didn't like that THEY weren't getting special treatment. They didn't like that THEY weren't part of some social circle that controlled the group. All in all, they got a taste of their own medicine, and responded like babies.

NFU damaged RAT more than cj did. It tore RAT in half and it killed activity once the group was given back to ColourTheory for him to find a new leader. NFU was completely ridiculous and unnecessary.


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campy is not online. campy
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18 Mar 2016 04:29 PM
False.
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Imitater is not online. Imitater
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18 Mar 2016 04:30 PM
cj and nuke made rat great again
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Rectifying is not online. Rectifying
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18 Mar 2016 04:31 PM
love wins
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campy is not online. campy
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18 Mar 2016 04:31 PM
CJ led RAT in a poor and undesirable way because CT told me that he did. CT told me that if I join NFU and completely deteriorate my own community I will be rewarded at the end and I did so because CT is the greatest clanner of all time.

That is why CJ was horrible.
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DoAnAileronRoll is not online. DoAnAileronRoll
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18 Mar 2016 04:31 PM
Cowardice
Are you serious?
Apologies for freedom—
I can’t handle this!

When freedom rings—
Answer the call!
On your feet!
Stand up tall!
Freedom’s on our shoulders.
RAT!

Enemies of freedom
Face the music
Come on, boys—take ‘em down!
President CJasaurusREX knows how
To make Frostaria great
Deal from strength or get crushed every time…

Over here…
RAT!
Over there…
RAT!
Freedom and liberty everywhere…

Oh, say can you see
It’s not so easy
But we have to stand up tall and answer freedom’s call

RAT! RAT! RAT!
We’re the land of the free and the brave… RAT…
RAT!

The stars and stripes are flying
Let’s celebrate our freedom
Inspire, proudly, freedom to the world

RATi-tude…
RAT!
Frostarian pride…
RAT!
It’s attitude, it’s who we are
Stand up tall…

We’re the red, white, and blue
Fiercely free, that’s who!
Our colors don’t run, no sirree…

Over here…
RAT!
Over there…
RAT!
Freedom and liberty everywhere…

Oh, say can you see
It’s not so easy
But we have to stand up tall and answer freedom’s call!
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undefined_meme is not online. undefined_meme
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18 Mar 2016 04:31 PM
NFU was the reason why RAT died w/ CJ

Drop it low and pick it up just like this | terminated add 20k+
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Ghosty2Spooks is not online. Ghosty2Spooks
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18 Mar 2016 04:32 PM
The only reason NFU is at all excusable is because it ended up leading to Polymorphic's glorious golden era


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Ghosty2Spooks is not online. Ghosty2Spooks
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18 Mar 2016 07:23 PM
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sovrn is not online. sovrn
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18 Mar 2016 07:26 PM
cj wasn't even a bad leader people just set him up to fail by being opposed and a thorn in his side 24/7 and ruined all opportunities he had by things like NFU
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Ghosty2Spooks is not online. Ghosty2Spooks
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18 Mar 2016 07:36 PM
CJ wasn't perfect but RAT was ruined by CT drones; not him.


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look01 is not online. look01
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18 Mar 2016 07:37 PM
cj lost to vak 102-2 before giving it to meto..
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campy is not online. campy
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18 Mar 2016 07:41 PM
cj lost to vak 102-2 before giving it to meto..

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TPHG, not CJ.

Try again.
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look01 is not online. look01
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18 Mar 2016 07:44 PM
uh, it was Cj... lol...
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matthew_m is not online. matthew_m
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18 Mar 2016 07:45 PM
CJ's era was really bad actually. i was a hr throughout the majority of it and i think i know what i'm talking about.

for example, we were NEVER able to complete a high rank meeting because cj and nuke would get into a fight and nuke would cry and cj would leave 5 mins into the meeting. it was a good meeting if it even lasted 10 mins.

the community during cj's era was composed of hrs social circling on the ts3 (poly, me, fab, infexous, etc.) and the low ranks feeling unwelcomed on the ts3 and hardly ever coming onto it.


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campy is not online. campy
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18 Mar 2016 07:45 PM
TPHG went to war with VAK

are you stupid
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Weaponization is not online. Weaponization
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18 Mar 2016 07:45 PM
I agree somewhat, CJ wasn't that horrible

But the thing is, the majority of RAT even many of his own HR's conspired against him.
You know why?

They disliked his leadership!
Doesn't that kinda tell you something..?


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matthew_m is not online. matthew_m
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18 Mar 2016 07:45 PM
no look lol..

tphg was the leader when vak war started and 1/4 of the way into it he handed the group off to meto


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look01 is not online. look01
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18 Mar 2016 07:46 PM
considering i was an officer in VAK when the war was declared. it was cj lol.. im talking about the 3rd war.
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matthew_m is not online. matthew_m
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18 Mar 2016 07:47 PM
the most recent rat vak war was initiated while TPHG owned the group

you don't know what you're talking about clearly


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Ghosty2Spooks is not online. Ghosty2Spooks
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18 Mar 2016 07:47 PM
@Weaponization
The HR's that conspired against him were the same ones that received preferential treatment from ColourTheory.

Those people were loyal to ColourTheory, not RAT.
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Weaponization is not online. Weaponization
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18 Mar 2016 07:48 PM
First VAK/RAT war was with D4/CT

Second was with Cj I think but I could be wrong

Third was with TPHG but most of the war Meto was in charge so I'll just say meto


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look01 is not online. look01
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18 Mar 2016 07:48 PM
vak declared war on RAT and tphg quit like 2 weeks into it and gave it to cj, and then we just went on a rampage. then when we got to like 90, cj gave it to meto
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look01 is not online. look01
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18 Mar 2016 07:49 PM
the 2nd rat war was with d4/ct too.. the 3rd one was with cj/meto.
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campy is not online. campy
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18 Mar 2016 07:49 PM
"vak declared war on RAT and tphg quit like 2 weeks into it and gave it to cj, and then we just went on a rampage. then when we got to like 90, cj gave it to meto"

you realize this is after NFU so there is no sense in TPHG giving it back to CJ when he got it from him

TPHG gave RAT to Meto
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