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Re: RAT | High Rank Initiation Process.

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Frostiverse is not online. Frostiverse
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17 Mar 2016 12:02 AM
I need 25 or more people's support to get this idea approved.

(Please read through this information)

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As I've been attending Battle Practices in RAT a lot more now, I've been noticing Certain High Ranks that have been making mistakes, and ruining the "fun" and ignore the "mistake" by continuing on.

-Now I haven't reported any of these events on date, but here is one I had time to do, and recover.
[3/17/2016|12:10:12 - 12:45]

(Over the next days, more information will be gathered and provided to this forum, as a clip statement.)

These certain High Ranks, that I could name, are obviously new to the scene, and don't know how to run things around, and carefully.

An initiation process for High Ranks should be introduces into RAT as a training program, to ensure the new HR's are ready and able to host, with little mistake, that are not major.
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(Information about the High Ranks, will not be given out unless asked for from RAT HR's that are at a necessary rank.)

Please post your opinions on this issue, and say "support" or "no support."
Thank you for reading all of this,

Marksman, Frostiverse


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Paralix is not online. Paralix
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17 Mar 2016 12:03 AM
I think it has good potential,

I would just like to see how it gets executed.

Support.
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MightReyven is not online. MightReyven
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17 Mar 2016 12:05 AM
Sounds good

+support
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deadravens is not online. deadravens
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17 Mar 2016 12:05 AM
no support
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HlCOM is not online. HlCOM
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17 Mar 2016 12:08 AM
Nay
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Weaponization is not online. Weaponization
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17 Mar 2016 12:10 AM
What you are describing is exactly what Supervisors, Justicars, and Vindicators are.

They are OFficers in training, and will make mistakes. They become HR's when they are ready.


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Frostiverse is not online. Frostiverse
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17 Mar 2016 12:13 AM
Tell me one thing. Have you've seen other HR's that are capable of hosting help them out? They can't learn by themselves. They need to learn the proper way. A separate group would be at least adjustable for this issue, but it still needs to be listened to.


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HlCOM is not online. HlCOM
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17 Mar 2016 12:15 AM
"Have you've seen other HR's that are capable of hosting help them out?"

No because it's in trainer teamchat and their own teamspeak channel or skype after the event etc in a private manner not in front of 20 people.

Anyways if the problem is HRs not helping them enough then just petition for HRs to help more often instead of this elaborate system.
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Frostiverse is not online. Frostiverse
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17 Mar 2016 12:17 AM
You do know they have offices in the team speak.


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Shiloo is not online. Shiloo
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17 Mar 2016 12:20 AM
Battle practices are drastically useless right now besides gaining prestige. The battle practice system needs to be fixed before we teach people how to run one.


\\add like 35k posts lol//
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Vhakar is not online. Vhakar
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17 Mar 2016 12:41 AM
Signed,
Supervisor Vhakar Xerius
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IsaWitch is not online. IsaWitch
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17 Mar 2016 12:55 AM
i won't call this stupid but i'll call it insanely ridiculous

you just said that we should introduce a 'TRAINING PROGRAM' without saying what this training program would do

the way the promotion system works is fine and if you have problems with some officers what you should do is talk to circular or phillz, not come up with a bad idea and petition it on c&g because you know some rat members will support it anyways



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AdmiralJensen is not online. AdmiralJensen
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17 Mar 2016 12:57 AM
Get HR first, then complain. Thanks =D


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Vhakar is not online. Vhakar
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17 Mar 2016 01:00 AM
He doesn't have to be an Officer to "complain"
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IsaWitch is not online. IsaWitch
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17 Mar 2016 01:02 AM
jensen he can complain if he thinks there's a real issue so i don't really support your statement

but following what i said there isn't much to complain about considering most of the officers are competent

but if there is something to complain about circular and phillz are willing to listen i assume



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Salteus is not online. Salteus
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17 Mar 2016 01:04 AM
no support



▬ Salty / Hail the Overlord! ▬
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Polymorphic is online. Polymorphic
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17 Mar 2016 01:08 AM
i just wanna clarify that "high rank" is an incorrect label, most of the hosting is done by "officers" or "sub-officers"

high ranks are admirals. officers are justicar and marshal. sub-officers are supervisors are vindicators. most hosting is done with supervisors. the supervisors are learning how to host, and therefore won't be perfect. but if they aren't improving and keep making the same mistakes i'd agree there is an issue and question why it isn't being addressed.

on another note, id be interested to see more elaboration on your plan. i can agree battle practices are lacking.
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Frost_Lord is not online. Frost_Lord
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17 Mar 2016 02:38 AM
Agreed
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Frostiverse is not online. Frostiverse
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17 Mar 2016 06:11 AM
"An initiation process for High Ranks should be introduces into RAT as a training program, to ensure the new HR's are ready and able to host, with little mistake, that are not major."

I believe I pointed it out there.


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undefined_meme is not online. undefined_meme
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17 Mar 2016 06:26 AM
Why introduce a useless officer system when you can TEACH the officers and give them tips on how to become any better

Drop it low and pick it up just like this | terminated add 20k+
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Frostiverse is not online. Frostiverse
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17 Mar 2016 06:34 AM
Meme Have you seen any co-operation with these Officers in training?

That is one key reason why I'm bring this topic up. No one that I have seen has helped them out. At least have some program to enforce this, so it could be better processed.


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ForgedVoid is not online. ForgedVoid
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17 Mar 2016 06:35 AM
Battle practices are drastically useless right now besides gaining prestige. The battle practice system needs to be fixed before we teach people how to run one.[2]
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Frostiverse is not online. Frostiverse
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17 Mar 2016 06:36 AM
What do you mean by this. Please explain.


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ForgedVoid is not online. ForgedVoid
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17 Mar 2016 06:37 AM
a low rank does NOT go to battle practices to learn or simply have fun, the vast majority would only attend for a reward(prestige)
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Frostiverse is not online. Frostiverse
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17 Mar 2016 06:41 AM
You are right. I feel like WitethunderHWD could be explained as one of those people.
I say this because he is usually getting mad, and trolling the Trainers. They don't really take away his prestige for this, they just kick him or warn him over 3 times.


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