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| 11 Mar 2016 04:41 PM |
| science is what makes us essentially human |
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| 11 Mar 2016 04:42 PM |
| It's not that America rejects science, it's that the science the American people expose themselves to is corrupt and untrustworthy because the studies are conducted by organizations with self-interested motives. |
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| 11 Mar 2016 04:43 PM |
"It's not that America rejects science, it's that the science the American people expose themselves to is corrupt and untrustworthy because the studies are conducted by organizations with self-interested motives. "
I could argue similarly that people rejecting those studies are trying to bolster and keep big oil in power |
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| 11 Mar 2016 04:45 PM |
"That makes no sense"
He's right in a sense. We are the only known example of a species using logic to build an internally consistent framework describing how reality works. |
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| 11 Mar 2016 04:46 PM |
"I could argue similarly that people rejecting those studies are trying to bolster and keep big oil in power"
"Breakfast is the most important meal of the day!" Yeah, says who, the breakfast companies? |
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| 11 Mar 2016 04:46 PM |
"themselves to is corrupt and untrustworthy because the studies are conducted by organizations with self-interested motives. "
*coughsocialsciencesandfeminist/genderstudiescough* |
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| 11 Mar 2016 04:47 PM |
"Yeah, says who, the breakfast companies?"
if you offered proof that kellog's or other big cereal companies have said this I'd gladly agree with you |
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| 11 Mar 2016 04:47 PM |
| after the 50s, they shifted from science to reality televison |
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| 11 Mar 2016 04:49 PM |
When you word it like that Brett it makes perfect sense to think that way
But "science is what makes us who were are" or whatever it was that op said just didn't get the message across. |
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| 11 Mar 2016 04:50 PM |
"But "science is what makes us who were are" or whatever it was that op said just didn't get the message across."
Brett explains my thought process perfectly, sorry I didn't elaborate earlier |
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| 11 Mar 2016 04:51 PM |
republicans deny science but also religious people because it is that's about 90% of americans. |
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| 11 Mar 2016 04:52 PM |
"*coughsocialsciencesandfeminist/genderstudiescough*"
Yeah. "Wage gap waaahhhh" which happens to be like 3 cents if you compare people on the same professional field, which is basically entirely insignificant.
"if you offered proof that kellog's or other big cereal companies have said this I'd gladly agree with you"
I can offer proof that it's been disproven. |
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| 11 Mar 2016 04:52 PM |
all i know is i want one of those british plant membrane orbs of water
those look cool |
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| 11 Mar 2016 04:53 PM |
"It's not that America rejects science, it's that the science the American people expose themselves to is corrupt and untrustworthy because the studies are conducted by organizations with self-interested motives." It's likely both People reject science and stats are broken |
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| 11 Mar 2016 04:56 PM |
actually if I'm correct here "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" is just some kind of saying passed down and believed by the masses. I don't recall any scientific studies verifying or starting this claim.
that or it indeed was some form of propaganda passed to the public by cereal companies. in which case, data probably wasn't used.
scientists that you say "push a corrupt agenda" actually use data
oppositions to it also use data, but the logic process is off (due to politicians seeing this as the end to big oil companies), plus I don't recall ever seeing any skeptics actually use the scientific method |
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| 11 Mar 2016 04:58 PM |
wouldn't you say that philosophy is what made us human or linguistics or law what is it that separates us from other life forms
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| 11 Mar 2016 05:01 PM |
well kind of. All of those are passed down from generation to generation due to something called "collective learning"
the rate at which we learn (exponential) and our capacity to think like no other species is what makes us human. Throwing that away is saying "let's be monkeys again" |
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| 11 Mar 2016 05:02 PM |
@gift
i don't know theres animals that build houses, make clothing, all that
and no that's not sarcasm theres actually a type of crab that makes clothes out of things it finds on the sea floor and a very common example of building is beavers, birds, etc
also recent studies have confirmed that there are self-aware apes at the very least |
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| 11 Mar 2016 05:06 PM |
"i don't know theres animals that build houses, make clothing, all that
and no that's not sarcasm theres actually a type of crab that makes clothes out of things it finds on the sea floor and a very common example of building is beavers, birds, etc
also recent studies have confirmed that there are self-aware apes at the very least"
but the difference is they don't build on that knowledge or pass it down effectively. We are the only species that can |
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| 11 Mar 2016 07:19 PM |
@froggo
no its been confirmed in monkeys that they can indeed pass down knowledge through generations
we're really just glorified cavemen |
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| 11 Mar 2016 07:20 PM |
"no its been confirmed in monkeys that they can indeed pass down knowledge through generations
we're really just glorified cavemen"
they can pass the knowledge down certainly, but they can't build on it and improve it exponentially like we can |
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| 11 Mar 2016 07:22 PM |
@froggo
i got nothin but they probably can, evolution and all
we're scientifically and physically animals why cant we just accept the fact that we are |
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| 11 Mar 2016 07:23 PM |
"i got nothin but they probably can, evolution and all
we're scientifically and physically animals why cant we just accept the fact that we are"
I wholeheartedly agree, I'm just saying it's our powerful collective learning that made us so powerful, so I highly detest to throwing it away |
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